Ever read the "Amber" series or "Lord of Light"? Really great stuff. 

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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
THere's another batch I need to weigh into, "Knight of the Word". Back when I 
worked, I just bought books like crazy, and have yet to get around to reading a 
lot of them. Those are parked on my bookcase on my left right now.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let me know what you think. i'm about to dive into 
another Raymond Feist novel. I really enjoyed the "Riftwar" books (someone in 
this group suggested them, in fact), and i've been reading his stuff since. 
Over the winter I may pull out the George RR Martin books i have (three of 
them) and read all 2400 pages again to catch up. Then there's Terry Brooks' 
Knight of the Word books.

And every 3 -4 years I *must* read something from Zelazny. Usually it's the 
whole Amber series again. Or the awesome "Lord of Light", which is a must-read 
to my mind...

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From: Martin 
I bought the first two when they came out, and I just dug them out for reading. 
(Never did read them- back when I worked steadily, I bought books right and 
left, and never had the chance to read them, because I worked steadily.) First 
few pages come across as though written for young adults. I won't let that stop 
me, because I've read a couple of YA books that came out as really good.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm actually looking forward to seeing this film. I 
know nothing about the books, but the trailer looks cool. Reminds me of 
"Narnia" or some aspects of "Lord of the Rings". For me, being able to see a 
scifi or fantasy film based on material that's completely unfamiliar is a 
really exciting thing, like discovering new treasure. I understand there's 
quite a bit of controversy because the auther is an avowed atheist who said his 
books are about "killing God". Christians are upset because they say the film 
has been watered down, the atheist stuff removed. But then, they say, kids will 
want to read the books, and then be subjected to the anti-religious slant of 
the author.

Anyone read the books? Are they any good? Are they that overt in their 
preachments against spirituality and do the children indeed kill God--or a 
god--in them? 

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voice of reason.

But Lyra’s world is changing.

Her uncle, Lord Asriel (Daniel Craig), is embarking on a trip to the Arctic 
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Magisterium would go to any lengths – including shutting down Jordan College – 
to stop him. At the same time, rumors of children mysteriously disappearing and 
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At that moment, Lyra realizes that she will have to break away from Mrs. 
Coulter and embark on her own journey to rescue Roger and stop the Magisterium. 
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skill and all her courage, to stop it.

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