i forgot, where on that side of the pond do you live? -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Meta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have to thank you as well, Tracy. When I joined this list it really was for the sci/fi and while I still like that aspect of the list, I stay because even though I've never met any of you good people face to face, I feel a kindred with most of you. Sometimes I feel left out because of the talk of shows, etc that haven't as yet made it this side of the pond, but with all the other things that get discussed,debated, etc. I find myself here nearly every day. I've learned so much of what is going on in this world and especially America from you guys and "I thank you all" for teaching me about so many things I didn't know or understand. I may not join in many discussions but know that I'm absorbing all the good 'mind food' I can here.
Thanks, Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks guys. I was just thinking scifinoir was no longer a scifi list, > but a life sharing list. I can not take credit for nurturing it, but I > am glad it happened. I think you should be applauding yourselves. > > Martin wrote: > > Three cheers for Tracey! > > > > Hip-hip HOORAY! > > > > Hip-hip HOORAY! > > > > Hip-hip HOORAY! > > > > Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: God bless you, Martin. I think we do that for each other. You know, I > > played football on a > > team in Newark, NJ after I got out of the Air Force. I was primarily a > > defensive safety, and > > we were one tough team! And you know where our strength came from? Each > > other. > > > > See, when we huddled before each play, we held hands. So much strength and > > support flowed > > between us... > > > > That's what I feel here, with all of us. > > > > I think it's pretty cool that we started with a shared passion, and that has > > grown into what we have, > > with the passion still our glue, of course. > > > > And kudos to Mama Tracey for nurturing our deviations from the main subject, > > and allowing us to > > become so close... > > > > Maurice Jennings > > Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? > > KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! > > Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com > > <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Martin > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:55 PM > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married > > > > Reece, your words give me joy every day, and I'm in sore need of it these > > days. I'm beginning to look at you as a role model. > > > > Reece Jennings <mcjennings124@ <mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com> > > wrote: Sigh...I know. I tend to attempt to lighten up potentially > > painful/heavy > > subjects > > with sick humor...a gift I developed during my cop days...LOL! > > > > And Martin, I know I don't have to say this to you, but I'm sure you know my > > twisted humor is in NO way meant to take anything away from the very > > human and touching parts of your life. In fact, they hit home for me... > > > > I have a son who was born April 15, 1968. I was preparing to head to the > > Philippines. > > > > He was born David William Jennings. At 8 months, he was adopted, and his > > name > > was changed. I won't put it here. You never know...well, until 1998, I had > > no idea > > what his adopted name was, or anything about him. Then I stumbled across > > his mother. > > We had a brief connection in 1967 (what a choice of word!) that lead to her > > pregnancy. > > > > I did a search of his name on the fledgling internet, and 2 names popped up. > > A VERY unique > > first and last name helped, so I called the Junior name. My son answered, > > and I gently probed > > until I found out he had no idea that I existed. So...I dropped the > > 'F'-bomb (FATHER) on him. > > > > "I am your biological father." I gave him information about me. He, of > > course, was blown out. > > He said he couldn't talk right then. About 5 hours later I received a phone > > call from a very blunt, > > intense woman. She grilled me about his mother, our meeting, where the mom > > was from...during the > > conversation...I mean interrogation...I figured that she was his wife. It > > wasn't like she didn't give me clues... > > "What are you to my husband?" was a big one! After about 30 minutes, I > > guess she saw that I wasn't the > > least bit defensive, I answered every painful question she had. So she > > handed the phone to my son. > > > > We talked, shared information, laughed, and marveled at how parallel our > > lives were. That is the ONLY > > conversation we have ever had. It was summer 1998. I have sent him letters > > and pictures, and he has > > responded with the same. It turns out that the lady was his wife, and she > > is from Spain. He sent me a > > wonderful picture of him in his 1st Calvary army officer dress blues with > > her. I also saw his helicopter on > > the internet when he was flying in Iraq. An unmanned drone was above his > > chopper when he flew in to > > take a bead on a truck carrying a mortar crew that had just shelled their > > headquarters. I heard him say > > on the radio, "Do you want me to Whack this guy?". I was freaked for a > > second. Then I realized he was > > doing and saying exactly the same things I would have said and done! > > > > Well, we've been in touch by email over the past 9 years. I didn't find out > > that his adoptive dad had died of > > cancer until a year after it happened...about 3 years ago now. I used to > > call his dad to find out about him. > > > > I was grateful to find that he had fine adoptive parents, because all sons > > want their mothers, but NEED their > > fathers to become complete men. And my son, with all of the hurt he must be > > holding inside, is indeed a good, > > complete man. He's an instructor helicopter pilot, 17 years in the army. > > He has 2 adopted daughters and a wife > > he says he could not have made it without. > > > > If I could change things, I would have raised him. Long story again...I'm > > glad for email, and that we have what we > > have. > > > > Maurice Jennings > > Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? > > KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! > > Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho > > <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com > > <http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> > > > > _____ > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com] > > On > > Behalf Of Astromancer > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:24 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married > > > > LMAO...You, sir, are a sick individual... > > > > Reece Jennings <mcjennings124@ <mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com> > > wrote: 80!!! Man, talk about a Blues subject...!!! > > > > 'I married Linda Sue from Toledo > > We was happy until our son was born with two heads. > > > > Now he's a singer, too...Alto and bass!' > > > > I got the two-headed blues... > > > > Maurice Jennings > > Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? > > KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! > > Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho > > <http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com> > > mesavers.com > > <http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> > > mesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> > > > > _____ > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com] > > On > > Behalf Of Martin > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 8:01 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married > > > > When I first saw this story, my thoughts immediately went to Howling Wolf, > > the legendary blues singer. Years after his death, two people in- Toledo, I > > believe it was- met, fell in love and planned to marry. They got the > > necessary blood tests well ahead of time, which told them that they were > > half-sister and -brother, through Wolf. Seems that he, like many old-time > > musicians, liked to spread the love around, and he had nine children by nine > > different women in Toledo alone. Those kids began a search for more > > siblings, and came up with, at present, 80 total siblings. > > > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote: Fri > > Jan 11, 2008 3:50pm EST > > > > LONDON (Reuters) - A couple discovered after they had married that they > > were twins who had been split up at birth and adopted by separate > > families, according to a member of Britain's House of Lords. > > > > British peer David Alton recounted the story to parliament last month to > > support his argument that artificially conceived children should be told > > who their biological parents are. > > > > Alton said he had heard the story of the separated twins from a High > > Court judge who had dealt with the case. > > > > "This did not involve in vitro fertilization: It involved the normal > > birth of twins who were separated at birth and adopted by separate > > parents," said Alton, an independent member of the Lords. "They were > > never told that they were twins." > > > > "They met later in life and felt an inevitable attraction, and the judge > > had to deal with the consequences of the marriage that they entered into > > and all the issues of their separation," he said. > > > > "I suspect that it will be a matter of litigation in the future if we do > > not make information of this kind available to children who have been > > donor-conceived," he said. > > > > Alton could not immediately be reached for comment and no further > > information was available about the twins or where they were from. > > > > "I think it's a very tragic story for the people involved," said Pam > > Hodgkins, head of a group that helps adults affected by adoption. > > > > "It is a lesson that we need to learn and apply to the situation of > > donor-conceived children," she told Sky News. > > > > "Whilst ... nowadays it would be most unusual for siblings to be > > separated ... the risk of secrecy affecting the lives of people born as > > a result of egg and sperm donation is exactly the same as the risks that > > have affected adopted people in the past," she said. > > > > (Reporting by Adrian Croft; Editing by Stephen Addison) > > http://www.reuters. > > <http://www.reuters. > > <http://www.reuters. > > <http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC17037920080111> > > com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC17037920080111> > > com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC17037920080111> > > com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC17037920080111 > > > > Yahoo! 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