Yes and no. There are no quick cuts like the Bourne movies but the
camera moves quite a bit ant it gets knocked around during the scenes
when they are on the run.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> is it as bad as The Bourne Supremacy (the second flick?) That one
made me sick at many times. The third Bourne film didn't bother me, though
> 
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> From: "B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I have to give one warning, if you are bothered by by shaky camerawork
> this might not be the movie for you. One person threw up
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B. Smith" <daikaiju66@> wrote:
> >
> > I read the review and he misses the point and his biases were showing
> > big time. The reason we don't ever get an origin or backstory is
> > because we only know as much as the characters. They are damn near at
> > ground zero when the events happen and they don't have any secret
> > knowledge. They are scared and on the run.
> > 
> > The bridge sequence is awesomely effective. Manhattan was being
> > evacuated and it was their quickest escape route. Clover or MGP as
> > some websites have called him is attracted by the noise and light from
> > the helicopters, cars, etc. and attacks the bridge.
> > 
> > I've heard a lot of people complaining that they didn't like the
> > characters. I actually liked them especially Hud. They seemed like
> > pretty normal twentysomethings. Rob seems like an ass due to the Beth
> > thing but you can see that he's totally in love with her and panicked
> > when their friendship was rapidly morphing into something deeper.
> > 
> > I really liked the movie and most critics did as well. It's riding at
> > 77% on Rottentomatoes.com. 
> > 
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly
> > Tracey L. Minor)" <tdlists@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since I posted a good Cloverfield review, I thought I would post a
> bad 
> > > review as well
> > > 
> > > Wednesday, Jan. 16, 2008
> > > Corliss on Cloverfield: The Blair Witch Reject
> > > By Richard Corliss
> > > 
> > > An explosion shakes the earth. Flames spark through the night sky
> like 
> > > fireworks. It's either July 4th or Sept. 11th. More like the
latter, 
> > > because devastation and hysteria have engulfed lower Manhattan.
> > Then, in 
> > > flash glimpses, we see the cause of the carnage. A scaly tail, long
> > as a 
> > > city block and wide as a boulevard. A furtive figure 25 stories
big. 
> > > Whatever the thing is, it's alien, it's odd-looking and it's royally
> > pissed.
> > > 
> > > Most horror and monster stories follow a simple format: "What if
> > [insert 
> > > worst thing you can imagine]...?" In the junky, fitfully
frightening, 
> > > virally marketed new movie Cloverfield, the "if" is the worst
> thing you 
> > > can remember. To wit: What if a previously unknown agent of evil
> > were to 
> > > destroy a world-famous New York City edifice? Not the World Trade 
> > > Center, this time, but the Statue of Liberty â€" the Lady's head is
> > tossed 
> > > like a used beer can onto a lower Manhattan street. And the Statue 
> > > decapitator is not a team of al-Qaeda operatives but a scaly,
300-ft. 
> > > monster, an American Godzilla.
> > > 
> > > Instantly you have a million questions. By which I mean: three. 1)
> > Where 
> > > did the creature come from? (The Hudson River? Or the Arctic, thawed
> > out 
> > > by climate change and sent south on tidal currents? Possibly
> Hoboken?) 
> > > 2) What event roused it from a snooze that may date back to the
> > dinosaur 
> > > era? (Godzilla's rampage across Japan, you'll recall, was the
> spawn of 
> > > atomic bombs dropped there.) 3) What, exactly, the heck is it?
> > > 
> > > Can't say, since the movie â€" written by Drew Goddard, from an
> idea by 
> > > producer J.J. Abrams, and directed by Matt Reeves â€" purports to
> be a 
> > > video document "retrieved at an incident site formerly known as
> Central 
> > > Park" (now known as Cloverfield), and is told exclusively from the
> > point 
> > > of view of a few twentysomethings. We know only what they know, see
> > what 
> > > the videocamera sees. I.e., not much.
> > > 
> > > They gather at a surprise going-away party for young Rob Hawkins 
> > > (Michael Stahl-David): his gal pal Lily (Jessica Lucas), his
> on-and-off 
> > > girlfriend Beth (Odette Yustman), his best bud Hud (T.J. Miller)
> and a 
> > > pretty stray named Lizzy (Marlene Diamond). Early on, Hud is given
> the 
> > > job of documenting the event with a video camera. The movie spends
> its 
> > > first 20 mins. introducing you to a bunch of people, most of whom
> will 
> > > be dead by min. 30. All you have to know: Rob had a brief affair
with 
> > > Beth and wants to get back to her; Lily, although nobody hits on
> > her, is 
> > > a definite hottie; Lizzy is the disposable outsider; and Hud is the
> > kind 
> > > of guy who'll tag along to anything, including Armageddon. (Still,
> you 
> > > have to give Hud credit. He may be running for his life for the 10
> hrs. 
> > > of the plot, but he never drops the camera or forgets to point it at
> > the 
> > > creatures that are ready to kill him. The guy's a trouper.)
> > > 
> > > They're all meant to be cool, attractive, upmarket young
> > professionals â€" 
> > > Rob has just been promoted to vice president of some company that's 
> > > sending him off to be in charge of Japan â€" but their behavior is,
> > tops, 
> > > adolescent. The men in attendance clumsily hit on pretty girls they 
> > > don't know; they mope about an old love (Beth) showing up with a
new 
> > > guy; they frantically pass along gossip about who's been sleeping
> with 
> > > whom. A suspicion forms in viewers' minds that Cloverfield has been 
> > > rated PG-13 "for the emotional age of the characters."
> > > 
> > > But their behavior is Noel Coward-sophisticate compared to what
> happens 
> > > when the monster strikes. A horror/sf/disaster movie loses points
> every 
> > > time you're forced to ask yourself, "Why are they doing
something so 
> > > stupid?", and the answer is, "Because they're in a
horror/sf/disaster 
> > > movie." And if you thought that Abrams â€" the creator of Felicity,
> > Alias 
> > > and Lost, and the writer-director of the spiffy if underperforming 
> > > Mission: Impossible III â€" would produce a horror movie that was
> > not just 
> > > high-concept but high-IQ â€" you misjudge his faithfulness to a
genre 
> > > requiring that, in extremis, people act in a manner that's way
below 
> > > their intelligence levels.
> > > 
> > > Susan Sontag described horror and science fiction as "the
> > imagination of 
> > > disaster." The innovation is in thinking the unthinkable, not
> creating 
> > > rounded or even plausible characters. In fact, human idiocy is a
> > crucial 
> > > aspect of a genre that trades in mortal threat. If the characters
> holed 
> > > themselves away in some safe place, they'd never meet the monster.
> They 
> > > have to be at risk in order to escape, or get trampled, and for
us to 
> > > get a cheap but essential movie thrill.
> > > 
> > > Once the monster surfaces in Cloverfield, mobs of Manhattanites
> run for 
> > > their lives across a bridge out of the borough. They. Are. Stupid!
> > They, 
> > > and you the viewer, are supposed to believe that this huge
> creature â€" 
> > > whose stride spans several city blocks, and who could get across
the 
> > > East River in about three steps â€" is some sort of snob who
> > wouldn't be 
> > > caught dead in Brooklyn. (But his victims would. That tail whips
> out of 
> > > the water and snaps the Brooklyn Bridge in two.)
> > > 
> > > Of course, in movies like this, stupidity can also be read as movie 
> > > heroism. In The Day After Tomorrow, with the northern half of the
> U.S. 
> > > population dead from a sudden attack of Global Freezing, Dennis
Quaid 
> > > decides he has to go on an Iditarod race from Washington, D.C., to
> the 
> > > 42nd Street Library in New York to save his stranded son, Jake 
> > > Gyllenhaal. Tom Cruise went on a similar suicide mission to
reconnect 
> > > with his family in Spielberg's War of the Worlds. Here in
Cloverfield 
> > > Rob decides he absolutely must save Beth, trapped in her midtown 
> > > highrise, even though she's a four-mile trudge away, the rest of
the 
> > > town is being smashed, trashed or eaten alive by crazy creatures,
> they 
> > > have no access to food or water, and Lily's wearing high heels.
> > > 
> > > Apocalyptic pessimism may be the theme of these movies, but the
> hero is 
> > > driven by a desperate optimism: the world's ending, so I have to
> go on 
> > > an impossible journey to save someone dear to me. The idea is that 
> > > you'll forget about the tens of millions who died elsewhere and 
> > > concentrate on the people you've come to know and have a rooting 
> > > interest for. This elitism applies to virtually any movie set in 
> > > cataclysmic times, whether it's the Civil War of Gone With the
> Wind or 
> > > New-York-under-siege fantasies like Cloverfield. The leading
> characters 
> > > become emblems of survival, and the movie proceeds under the theory 
> > > that, in such a crazy world, the problems of a few little people
> really 
> > > do amount to a hill of beans.
> > > 
> > > So Rob and his posse head into the subway tunnels, hoping to elude 
> > > Cloverzilla and get uptown alive. Here's where the movie's one 
> > > inspiration kicks in. Earlier, we saw the monster shedding
parasites 
> > > that had attached themselves to its hide like barnacles. These
> > dog-size, 
> > > cricket-faced, crablike creatures can bound like kangaroos,
stick to 
> > > ceilings and attack people without so much as a "Boo!"
> > > 
> > > Just about every other plot and effects element in Cloverfield is 
> > > familiar. The movie is basically the 1954 Godzilla (itself a
gloss on 
> > > Ray Harryhausen's 1953 The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, in which a 
> > > prehistoric beast is roused by atomic tests to terrorize New York
> City) 
> > > told in the style of, and with the characters from, The Blair Witch 
> > > Project (but with a lot less internal cohesion; this could be
called 
> > > "The Blair Witch Reject"). The State of Liberty head comes from the 
> > > poster for John Carpenter's Escape from New York (though that
shot is 
> > > not in the film). The little crab creatures are like the toy
> meanies in 
> > > Gremlins. And when the main monster opens its mouth, you pretty
much 
> > > know there'll be a second, Alien-like set of teeth.
> > > 
> > > In its broader contours, Cloverfield evokes real-life horror. The
> Wall 
> > > Street area already had its monster mash, on 9/11. So there's no way
> > you 
> > > can watch downtown panic and crumbling towers without it seeming a 
> > > bit... familiar. Naturally the director says, he didn't want to
> > diminish 
> > > or exploit the residue of grief from 9/11. And, as the press notes 
> > > inform us, "The visual effects teams even took care that the
> collapsing 
> > > buildings in the film were older-looking structures that did not
> evoke 
> > > the style of the structures that were attacked six years earlier." 
> > > You're right, visual effects team. It doesn't bother a New Yorker to
> > see 
> > > a gorgeous landmark like the Woolworth or Empire State Building 
> > > destroyed. Those things are too old anyway.
> > > 
> > > Mind you, I don't begrudge the creators of even a junk-food movie
> like 
> > > Cloverfield the fun they had demolishing New York one more time.
The 
> > > city is as irresistible to filmmakers as it is to terrorists,
and for 
> > > the same reason: it's an amazingly dense and compact symbol of
power. 
> > > Harryhausen, Carpenter, Abrams and the I Am Legend team, among many 
> > > others, see a city ready to explode from its own ambitions and 
> > > animosities, from all that compressed energy; they'll just give
it a 
> > > push into catastrophe. But I have to agree with my wife, who,
when I 
> > > told her about Cloverfield, sighed and said, "Couldn't somebody,
just 
> > > once, pick Chicago?"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > * Find this article at:
> > > * http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1704366,00.html
> > >
> >
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