I haven't seen Men With Guns either. I need to add it to my Netflix 
list.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> But of course! I think the only thing I haven't seen from Sayles 
recently is "Men with Guns". I really enjoyed "Lone Star", 
and "Passion Fish" too. I think I first encountered his work 
with "City of Hope", starring Joe Morton and Angela Bassett. I was 
struck by the positive treatment of Blacks, the positions of power 
they had--and a love scene between Morton and Bassett! Back in '91, 
all of those things were still rare for Black characters. I 
saw "Brother from Another Planet" after that. 
> 
> Even when I don't just love a Sayles film, I'm always struck by how 
fully realized his Black characters are. He treats us with respect 
and dignity, shows a whole gamut of Black people, isnt condescending 
or patronizing. He also doesn't make us into cardboard heroes 
or "magical negrores".   He shows us as people--with a unique 
culture, yes, but still, as people
> Sad that in 2008, that's still a rare thing...
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I want to see that as well. I love John Sayles stuff. Did you ever 
> see Sunshine State?
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
> >
> > that's right, thanks. I'll try to see it this weekend, but 
> frankly "Honeydripper" is ahead of it on my list
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: "B. Smith" <daikaiju66@> 
> > It was me.
> > 
> > Not as shaky as Blair Witch and no fast edits like the Bourne 
> films. 
> > There is some really shaky stuff during battle scenes and I hear 
> that 
> > the helicopter scene really got to some folks due to the spinning.
> > 
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I asked another person about that camera--it was either Daryle 
or 
> > Mike--but how bad is it? The second Bourne film made me nauseous 
> > (though the third, curiously, didn't). I saw "Blair Witch" on a 
TV 
> at 
> > home,and that camera didn't bother me. But honestly, 
> > the "Cloverfield" trailers have made my head spin a bit.
> > > Whaddya think?
> > > 
> > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
<tdlists@> 
> > > 
> > > > Same here. The shaking camera, did it for me. Even people who 
> > love it 
> > > > mention aspects that are kind of a turn off 
> > > > 
> > > > James Landrith wrote: 
> > > > > My stepson saw Cloverfield over the weekend and said, "I 
want 
> > my money 
> > > > > back." 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'll be waiting for it to hit HBO or Starz. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > > > > Behalf Of Mike Street 
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:19 AM 
> > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] J.J. Abrams: You're Dead, Jim 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I saw Cloverfield last night and I totally want my money 
> back. 
> > It was 
> > > > > the most bumb ass movie and those white kids really annoyed 
> the 
> > hell 
> > > > > out of me. Will not see Cloverfield 2 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links 
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> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links 
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