well i paid full price to see "Nemesis", just as I've paid to see *every* Trek movie that's ever come out. It was weak and disappointing. only thing I can say is that it was better than "Insurrection". I still can't figure out who was smoking what when they wrote that script: a Romulan based on Picard's DNA. Why? The android B4? Why? Why kill Data only to basically recreate DAta in B4? Why was B4 lying out in the dirt anyway? A trap? Did you also notice the disturbing similarity of "Nemesis" to "The Wrath of Khan?" A guy with an old grudge, who's given to making speeches, the space battle of the ships going toe-to-toe. Seemed like a major retread to me.
As for being mad about wasting money. I went through a period years ago when I was between jobs, hundreds of miles from family (and money!), had just lost my car, so was on the bus, and was literally counting pennies while job hunting. I actually spent the dough to catch two buses, then walk half a mile to a theatre, so I could pay to see Star Trek V: The Final Frontier! Talk about disappointed! And i did this on a Saturday too. I was so bummed when I got home that day! My wife to her credit didn't give me grief about spending money to see the movie, knowing what a Trekkie I am. That's why I'm still with this lady... -------------- Original message -------------- From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Which reminds me...I finally saw "Nemesis" on satellite this weekend. It was a pleasant enough way to spend a Saturday morning at home with an open laptop, a tankard of coffee and my morning newspapers handy, but I would have been mad as heck if I had paid first run movie house prices to see it. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i hear Nimoy was pleased, so I'll keep an open mind. > By the way, Mr. Abrams, it's "Trekkie", not "Trekker". > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_en_mo/film_star_trek > > By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie WriterThu May 1, 7:28 AM ET > > J.J. Abrams grew up more a fan of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo than of > James Kirk and his Vulcan buddy Spock. So why is a self-professed > "Star Wars" kid directing "Star Trek"? > > "It was an opportunity to take what I think has been a maligned world > to sound crass, a franchise and treat it in a way that made it > something that I wanted to see," said Abrams, who recently finished > shooting on "Star Trek," due in theaters May 8, 2009. "To take the > characters, the thoughtfulness, the personalities, the sense of > adventure, the idea of humanity working together, the sense of social > commentary and innovation, all that stuff. To take it and apply it in > a way that felt genuinely thrilling." > > Abrams, creator of TV's "Lost" and "Alias" whose big-screen credits > include "Mission: Impossible III," shared some "Trek" thoughts with > The Associated Press in an interview to promote the DVD release of his > monster movie "Cloverfield." > > While he enjoyed the TV show about Capt. Kirk, First Officer Spock and > their Enterprise crew mates, Abrams said he was not a rabid fan. > > In this age of make-or-break opening weekends, the revival of the > franchise seven years after the last movie ("Star Trek: Nemesis") > flopped may depend on introducing a new generation to the exploits of > the 23rd century explorers rather than just hooking old fans. > > "The whole point was to try to make this movie for fans of movies, not > fans of `Star Trek,' necessarily,'" Abrams said. "If you're a fan, > we've got one of the writers who's a devout Trekker, so we were able > to make sure we were serving the people who are completely enamored > with `Star Trek.' But we are not making the movie for that contingent > alone. > > "You can't really make a movie for them. As soon as you start to guess > what you think they are going to want to see, you're in trouble. You > have to make the movie in many ways for what you want to see yourself, > make a movie you believe in. Then you're not second-guessing an > audience you don't really have an understanding of." > > After the 1960s TV show went off the air, it remained alive in > syndication, and the original cast led by William Shatner as Kirk and > Leonard Nimoy as Spock was reunited for six big-screen movies. > > Four more movies followed starring Patrick Stewart and the cast of the > 1980s and '90s update "Star Trek: The Next Generation," while the > "Trek" universe expanded to include three other TV series. > > Abrams' "Star Trek" takes the franchise back to its beginning, with a > young cast re-creating the Enterprise crew: Chris Pine as Kirk, > Zachary Quinto as Spock, Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy, Simon Pegg as > engineer Scott, John Cho as helmsman Sulu, Zoe Saldana as > communications officer Uhura and Anton Yelchin as navigator Chekov. > > "It's a chance to see what Kirk and Spock would look like done now," > Abrams said. "What's thrilling about it is how great the cast is, how > remarkably talented and funny and just spot-on they all are." > > Nimoy also reprises his role as the older Spock, though Shatner > whose Kirk was killed at the end of the seventh movie, "Star Trek: > Generations" does not appear. > > Abrams would not share plot details, saying only that the movie would > remain faithful to the original while breaking new ground in action, > drama and visual effects, which are being crafted by "Star Wars" > creator George Lucas' Industrial Light and Magic outfit. > > "I feel like this is so unlike what you expect, so unlike the `Star > Trek' you've seen. At the same time, it's being true to what's come > before, honoring it," Abrams said. "I can say the effects for `Star > Trek' have never, ever been done like this. ... I can only tell you > the idea of the universe of `Star Trek' has never been given this kind > of treatment." > > Copyright © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. 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