And don't forget Warner's turn as the Cardassian torturer of Picard in the great two-part TNG ep "Chain of Command". Remember the show? Picard, Worf, and Crusher are sent on a mission to destroy a supposed Cardassian WMD, but it proves to be a trap. Picard is captured and then given over to the interrogator played by Warner. The guy sounds cultured and calm, but loves torture, has a pain-giving device implanted in Picard, and calls him "human" instead of by his name. He rigs up a group of lights, then asks Picard how many lights he sees. There are four lights, he keeps trying to make Picard say there are five, applying incredible pain when Picard refuses to comply. Success in doing so means he's broken him. The acting in this show is superb, with Stewart and Warner perfectly matching each other's presence and dramatic ability. (Not to mention Ronnie Cox's Bligh-like Captain Jelico, who by the way is exactly like my boss at my old job!) Picard is rescued just as the torturer i s demanding one more time to know how many lights there are, and Picard seems about to cave. But then he defiantly screams "There are four lights--four!" and stalks off.
But later on the Enterprise, he confesses to Troi that not only would he have lied and said there were five lights (so he could stop the torture), but there at the end, he really did *see* five lights! Thus, a Star Trek captain was broken, if only for an instant. I don't think i can remember any captain in Trek before or since about which that can be said. They sure as hell wouldn't have allowed that to happen to Kirk. Major, major kudos to the writers for the courage to tell such a harrowing and realistic story. -------------- Original message -------------- From: [email protected] (Keith Johnson) Yes, he played Jack the Ripper in "Time After Time" , the flick in which Malcolm McDowell plays inventor H.G. Wells, whose time machine is stolen by Jack, who uses it to cause mayhem in the future. Pretty good movie, original concept. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[email protected]> I love that actor. Didnt he play Jack the Ripper or someone like that once? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eddie Murphy to play The Riddler Same here, he's near the top of mine list too. And course, the cartoon version being voiced by the great voice of actor David Warner added mightily to my liking Ra's. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[email protected]> Ra's Al Ghul has always been my favorite of the Batman villains From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eddie Murphy to play The Riddler It wouldn't be Murpy's comedic chops that'd make a good Riddler to me. I do'nt want to laugh and chuckle at a Batman villain on that level. I'd rather squirm and be uneasy, the way Nolan's Joker made me feel. But Labeouf anywhere near the Batman film (if there is a third one) would be a disaster. Call me crazy, I'd still like to see a way to bring back Ra's Al Ghul to settle the battle started in Batman Begins, and to close out the series. Perhaps in light of Bruce's new troubles and status Ra's could feel he has in in to finally bring Bruce into the League--or simply manipulate him for a final revenge. Talia as Bruce's love interest/betrayer could be good. -------------- Original message -------------- From: [email protected] While I don't have problems with Murphy as the Riddler (he's a talented comedian after all). I DO have some serious problems with labeouf as robin. -GTW In a message dated 12/17/08 9:20:31 PM, [email protected] writes: No. F**king. Way! I don't know what's worse: Murphy as the Riddler, or increasingly ubiquitous and irritating Labeouf as Robin??? I like Murphy okay, but just not seeing him as the Riddler. The only hope I can have is that Nolan would somehow make it serious and substantial. But Labeouf? And Robin???Tell me this is one of those early rumours that's nothing but vapour. Please. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Justin Mohareb" <[email protected]> http://www.thesun.http://wwwhttp://wwhttp: //www. thesuhttp://www.theshtt FUNNYMAN EDDIE MURPHY will play The Riddler in the next Batman movie, The Sun can reveal. The Beverly Hills Cop star, 47, has been signed up by British director CHRISTOPHER NOLAN to reprise the role played by JIM CARREY in 1995's Batman Forever. The surprise move follows speculation linking Pirates of the Caribbean star JOHNNY DEPP to the part. The film, set for a 2010 release, is being developed under the working title Gotham. Execs have also signed up rising Transformers star SHIA LABEOUF, 22, to play Robin. CHRISTIAN BALE will return as Bruce Wayne, while MICHAEL CAINE will again play Bruce's assistant Alfred. **************************** I hope to Christ someone at the Sun had one too many pints. This is be yond bad comedy. Justin -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter G uy. h ttp:/ / thebitterguyhttp://thebithtt ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215195222x1200993641/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=82%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO82)
