Keith, totally agree. i would have loved 2 see the 'underling' that usurped
the Commander. here his monologue. the 'resistance is futile' would have been
a GREAT line. i think u would really enjoy DR. also, Crank did suck, but
Transporter 3 (forever here after mentioned as T3, not 2 be confused with T:3
ROTM). was fun. also with Tyrese Gibson playing the one of the bad guys, it
was kool. u will also enjoy the just 4 no reason killing people. that makes
it more fun.
Fate.
--- On Mon, 1/12/09, keithbjohn...@comcast.net <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>
wrote:
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] "Atlantis" Finale Underwhelms
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 1:16 PM
Yep, those were my objections too. Good point about the ZPM growing
the Wraith ship. They talked about it but never really *showed* it. Hell, there
was no interaction with the ship's crew either. No evil commander coming on
screen saying "We shall feed on the people of your world" or even "Resistance
is futile". Just a bunch of weapons fire.
I haven't seen the new "Death Race". I was leery of seeing it because "Crank"
was one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I feared more of the same. But
the homage to "Death Race 2000" and the fact that Joan Allen was in this new
film, made me curious. Thanks for the recommendation.
------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
From: Augustus Augustus <jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com>
> you all are very funny! everything that was said i totally agree with. here
> is
> my question though. why on earth move the chair 2 area 51? if u know that
> the
> Wraith are coming, how can the commanding officer of the most secure facility
> on
> Earth be heading a task force? being a Marine, i do know that when there is
> something going on in the world, my boss was on base. no matter where he
> was,
> if it was big, he was on base. i did appreciate that nod 2 general hammond.
> as
> for the dog-fight over area 51? we all know that photogs constantly keep
> that
> place under surveillance 24/7. plus, there are too many universities,
> planetariums, amateur astronomers, and the like who would have seen the fight
> and the Wrait ship (both whole and then the explosion) to quiet all of them.
> then look at Atlantis. sitting in the middle of San Francisco Bay, albeit
> cloaked, still it is sitting there in the bay! now, the Navy has quarantined
> the bay. how
> many questions would THAT raise? but enough of how u are going 2 keep it
> hidden, let's talk about how they totally screwed the pooch on this one.
>
> everyone is saying it was a 1 hour finale. me and my trustly stop watch
> accurately timed that finale (if u want 2 call it that?) was 40 minutes and
> 59
> seconds! all of that in 40 minutes. i was hurt that they did not give us
> more
> time, especially with the team onboard the hive ship. that in itself could
> have
> been a good 15 minutes of seeing what the zpm was doing 2 the ship. no, i am
> going to stop here. that fact that i invested 5 years into this to be
> screwed
> at the end is madding.
>
> on the flip side, has anyone watch 'Death Race'? for something 2 just laugh
> at
> while enjoying a few cold libations? it is soooooooooooooo much fun. check
> it
> out if u have not.
>
> Fate.
>
> --- On Sun, 1/11/09, Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ lycos.com> wrote:
> From: Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ lycos.com>
> Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] "Atlantis" Finale Underwhelms
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 7:26 AM
>
> I did think that about Carter's explanation for Landry's absence. I
> haven't seen "The Ark of Truth" or anything on it, so I don't
> know if he was involved in it in any way either.
>
> As for that FBI position, I'm not sure they'd take me on, what with my
> past HomeInsec track record.
>
>
>
>
> ---------[ Received Mail Content ]----------
> Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] "Atlantis" Finale Underwhelms
> Date : Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:10:47 +0000
> From : KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
> To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
>
> I caught Sam's explanation for Landry being absent, just thought it was
> goofy. Maybe Beau Bridges decided to get back to a movie career and was
> unavailable, or maybe they couldn't afford to pay him?
> You do indeed show a facility for obfuscating the truth. I just got an e-mail
> from a friend telling me the FBI is hiring. You should look 'em up!
>
>
> ------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
> From: "Martin Baxter"
> > If memory serves, the reason that Colonel Carter was running the SGC was
> because
> > General Landry was on a special mission. BTB, did you catch the tribute to
> Don
> > Davis they threw in, by renaming the ship Carter was going to command from
> the
> > Phoenix to the General Hammond?
> >
> > As for the battle being seen, yes, several people would've seen it, or
> even
> > captured footage, but they'd be pretty much relegated to conspiracy
> theorists,
> > Atlantis falling to earth explained away as a meteorite or some such, the
> > explosion of the hive ship made out to be a near-earth collision of two
> bodies
> > in space. (Hey, I think I've got a career cooking as a Guv'mint
> disinformation
> > guy.) And yes, I'd figure that setting off a nuke near a ZPM would
> take out
> > Earth and the Moon. No, I figure that Atlantis will mosey on back to
> Pegasus,
> > because the Wraith threat is still serious.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]----------
> >
> > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] "Atlantis" Finale Underwhelms
> >
> > Date : Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:03:00 +0000
> >
> > From : KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
> >
> > To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> >
> >
> > Mild spoilers....
> >
> >
> > Same here. Ronan's death was so sudden I figured it couldn't
> possibly be
> > permanent. The whole show was rushed, with all that action in one hour. A
> two
> > hour movie would definitely have allowed more plot to be explored. Sam
> Carter,
> > for example, running SG-C seemed contrived. How convenient the general
> wasn't on
> > base. And talk about convenient: Rodney just happened to have been working
> on
> > wormhole drive, something apparently the Ancients never even perfected,
> and it
> > not only worked, but worked well enough to move the entire city? Uh-huh.
> > Everyone I liked was given too little to do, and the threat of the Wraith
> near
> > Earth deserved a much more detailed treatment. How and when will Atlantis
> go
> > back to Pegasus? Is there a chance it'll stay? Will Rodney and the
> doctor get
> > married? Given that I still think that major battle would have been
> noticed and
> > recorded by some governments, scientists, and amateur astronomers, I
> thought the
> > series would end with the secret out. As the Wraith s!
> > hip
> > exploded in a nuclear fireball that *had* to have been seen, and an entire
> city
> > screamed toward Earth like a fireball, I thought "Wow, looks like the
> Stargate
> > program will finally be revealed. No way they can hide all this from
> everyone".
> > Yet they claim they did. Not sure I buy that. Felt as if the writers got
> lazy
> > and just tossed out something, which they called a series finale.
> >
> > The only thing I can say is that the finale was much better than that
> > embarrassing finale B&B tossed out for "Enterprise" .
> >
> > By the way, if a fully charged ZPM is blown up by a nuke, wouldn't all
> its
> > energy be released in a catastrophic burst?
> >
> >
> > ------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
> > From: "Martin Baxter"
> > > Keith, I think that's where the Guv'mint Hush-Up Machine
> would kick in,
> > > silencing anyone who claims to have seen anything through the use of
> money
> > > and/or threat of bodily harm.
> > >
> > > Once more, Skiffy fails us. They knew that they were closing the show
> out, and
> > > could've given it a two-hour send-off without a problem. That
> way, the plot
> > > elelments of the show wouldn't have been as rushed. And I
> can't tell you how
> > > miffed I am at the way they killed off Ronan, only to bring him back
> six
> > minutes
> > > later. His actual death didn't even impact on me, because I
> looked at my
> > > computer clock and just *knew* that he was coming back. A tiny,
> *tiny* chuckle
> > > at the ending, with Atlantis being parked in San Francisco Bay,
> cloaked.
> > >
> > > Maybe they'll do the movies better...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]----------
> > >
> > > Subject : [scifinoir2] "Atlantis" Finale Underwhelms
> > >
> > > Date : Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:10:11 +0000
> > >
> > > From : KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
> > >
> > > To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, that wasn't exactly a great series ender. The battle was
> foreshortened,
> > > going from discovery of the new Wraith ship to battle and resolution
> in less
> > > than an hour. The only cool thing was how the threat in this show
> actually
> > > started in last week's alternate-reality "Vegas" ep.
> (Which was good, by the
> > > way).
> > >
> > > I guess this was according to plan, but the grand finale was really
> just
> > another
> > > typical save-the-day ep, and not one of the better ones at that.
> Wormhole
> > > drives, ZPM-equipped Wraith ships--they threw a lot in to that quick
> hour, and
> > > the ending was really opened up. I guess it at least leaves room for
> some TV
> > or
> > > direct-to-DVD movies. I do wonder though: even though Atlantis is
> supposedly
> > not
> > > detected by the people of Earth, how did that big battle escape
> notice by the
> > > populace? I mean, you had dozens of Darts enter the atmosphere, a big
> dogfight
> > > over Area 51, a battle in the upper atmosphere, and a nuclear
> explosion there
> > as
> > > well. Surely some outfits around the world would get pics?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
>
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
>
>
>
