I'm with you all the way on those points.
---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Jackson Out as Nick Fury? Date : Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:41:22 +0000 From : [email protected] To : [email protected] The Spider-Man organic shooters thing always irritated me too. It was all due to the fact that Sam Rami simply didn't buy the concept that "a teenager could do something companies like 3M couldn't". At least in the Ultimate 'verse, I think Peter's web formula was based on research his genius dad had already started. The weird thing is how successful movies bounce back on the comics, which then change themselves to mirror the film concepts. Think of how for a while in X-Men books, Wolverine suddenly became taller and less scruffy looking--more Hugh Jackman than anything else. Or how the X-Men costumes for a while changed to all black. The biggest movie-to-comic change I can remember recently is with Daredevil. The movie claimed that DD's "radar sense" was *not* a separate power as the comics had always stated, but simply a bat-like use of his super hearing. He used a super-advanced sonar to form mental images of his environment. Hence, Bullseye was able to disrupt DD's "sight" by banging loudly on stuff. I *hated* that change. Next thing I know, I'm reading comics where DD's radar sense is starting to seem more sound based, and even read a Handbook entry that intimated that fact. And don't get me started on comics changing the character's appearances to look like the actors portraying th! em ons creen. Never been a fan of that... -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Martin Baxter" > I have seen that much, Fate, through other groups I'm in posting blurbs. But > that was in a sense, IMO, jumping the shark. Sam Jackson as Fury is a > well-known > conceit cooked up by one of the guys doing the Marvel Ultimates line, and it > works. THERE. I do need to see "Iron Man" to know for certain whether it's > based > on Marvel or Ultimates continuity. If it's Ultimates-based, then I'll start > wearing a sign promoting Jackson for the role every time I walk out of my > front > door. If not, then I don't want the shift. I've already had to endure paying > eight bucks to see "Spiderman", only to see Spidey developing organic > web-shooters. I remember reading Spidey comics when Peter was struggling to > get > his web-shooters to wor properly, the fun of seeing him run out of web-fluid > sixty stories up and having to figure out how to land without becoiming > street > pizza. And I won't even *mention* the mockery made of my beloved FF by H'Wood. > > Continuity. Call me stupid, but I'm fond of it... > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Jackson Out as Nick Fury? > > Date : Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:30:57 -0800 (PST) > > From : Augustus Augustus > > To : [email protected] > > > Martin, > > at the very end of Iron Man (and u really need 2 see it.....it's fun), after > the > credits Tony Stark walks into his house and Nick Fury is there. this Fury is > Sam Jackson, so that is where the Universes cross. The Ultimates (which i > totally get down with) and the regular Marvel Verse. > > Fate. > > --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Martin Baxter wrote: > From: Martin Baxter > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Jackson Out as Nick Fury? > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 7:54 AM > > Fate, I could see your point if this movie were set in the Ultimates Universe. > To the best of my knowledge (admittedly still not having seen Iron Man), > it's set in the standard Marvel Universe. There, Nick Fury is a White man. I > wouldn't mind Jackson as Fury, were this in the Ultimates "Verse. I > like my comics continuity. > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Jackson Out as Nick Fury? > Date : Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:08:31 -0800 (PST) > From : Augustus Augustus > To : [email protected] > > makes me wonder, are they trying 2 push out the Black actors? since in the > comic book Rhodey is Black, guess you have to make that casting move legit (or > they could do the downey thing from tropic thunder). is it that the studio > thinks that Blacks are not SciFi fans? if u look at the 'made 4 tv > movies' on SciFi channel one would tend to think NOT. > > Fate. > > --- On Thu, 1/15/09, [email protected] wrote: > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Jackson Out as Nick Fury? > To: [email protected], [email protected], > "'Cinque3000'" > Cc: "Tracey de Morsella" > Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 12:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, the author's joke about Howard aside, there is truth in the fact > that something may be amiss. Howard specifically states he was dumped > unceremoniously, and didn't see it coming. Remember, he asserted that > he'd had a gentleman's agreement, which was broken. Perhaps the suits > are jerking Jackson's chain around too. > > If so, they need to be careful: Jackson doesn't suffer fools gladly, and he > always feels studios are trying to screw him around anyway, so I can see him > walking. > > > > ------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- - > > From: "Tracey de Morsella" > > > > > > Jackson Out as Nick Fury? > > > > > > > > > Star says negotiations with Marvel have broken down. > > > > > > > > > by Jim Vejvoda > > > > > > > > > > > > January 14, 2009 - Samuel L. Jackson > > > has dropped a bombshell: he > > > just might not be back to play Nick Fury > > > in Iron Man 2 > > > or The Avengers > > > . > > > > > > Jackson, who made a cameo as the director of S.H.I.E.L.D. at the end of > the > > > first Iron Man, told the > > > > > > Los Angeles Times that he heard from his representatives last week that > > > things weren't going so well. "There was a huge kind of > negotiation that > > > broke down. I don't know. Maybe I won't be Nick Fury," > Jackson said. > > > > > > He continued, "Maybe somebody else will be Nick Fury or maybe Nick > Fury > > > won't be in it. There seems to be an economic crisis in the Marvel > Comics > > > world so [they're saying to me], 'We're not making that > deal.'" > > > > > > A Marvel spokesperson advised the paper that the studio "does not > comment on > > > active negotiations. " > > > > > > No word yet on who might replace Jackson if the role of Fury is recast, > but > > > we all know that > > > Terrence Howard is available. Oh, snap! > > > > > > http://movies. ign.com/articles /944/944835p1. html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
