Well, I'm out of Brut... ;-)

Seriously, I used to use Dial, but I stopped when they made it antibacterial, 
and started shuffling between various soap brands, ending up with a number of 
nasty rashes. As a last resort, I went to Irish Spring, and have had no trouble 
whatsoever since, close to a year now.





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Irish Spring? Funny, i haven't used that in ages. Next thing you'll be telling 
me you scrub down with Pumice, and get ready for a night on the town with some 
Brut on a rope!



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From: "Martin Baxter" 
> Keith, I stopped using antibacterial soap years ago, for just the reasons 
> listed.
> 
> Martin (Irish Spring man)
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> Subject : [scifinoir2] Antibacterial Soaps: Unnecessary Risks, No Benefits
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> From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
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> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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> Well, been hearing about this for a while now. Guess it's time to throw out 
> the 
> Dial antibacterial soap and just stick with the old standards. Wonder if they 
> still sell Lifebuoy? Although I don't care what anyone says: still using 
> paper 
> towels to open public toilet doors!
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> http://www.divinecaroline.com/article/22178/66003-antibacterial-soaps--unnecessa
> ry-risks--no
> 
> Antibacterial Soaps: Unnecessary Risks, No Benefits
> By: Sarah Krupp (View Profile) 
> 
> Make no mistake about it. They are everywhere. Your body is swimming in them, 
> the keyboard on your computer is blanketed, and that five-dollar bill you 
> handed 
> to the cashier before eating your scone is a virtual minefield. Bacteria are 
> omnipresent. 
> 
> I have two friends with vastly different approaches to these microscopic 
> threats. One believes the best way to beat them is to commune with them and 
> recommends�only half jokingly�eating off the kitchen floor once a week to 
> build up the ol� immune system. The other friend washes his hands incessantly 
> and refuses to take public transportation for fear of infection. He tries not 
> to 
> touch anything. And although this approach is stringent, the truth is, we 
> Americans are becoming more and more like friend number two. We open restroom 
> doors with paper towels and disinfect after every handshake. In short, we are 
> becoming a nation of germaphobes. 
> 
> Fearing the insidious little creatures that make us sick but knowing we can�t 
> dodge them all, we aim to destroy them with an arsenal of antibacterial hand 
> soaps, detergents, toothpaste, and even mattresses and toys. It seems logical 
> to 
> want total eradication of the microorganisms that cause illness, infection, 
> and 
> in extreme circumstances, death�unfortunately, it�s not that simple.
> 
> More Harm Than Good
> For starters, there is little proof that the antibacterial soap you buy at 
> the 
> drug store actually kills the most-dreaded microbes: S. aureus (staph) and E. 
> coli. Plus, living in a disinfected bubble can actually be bad for your 
> health 
> and the environment. Many experts believe that too much sanitization weakens 
> the 
> immune system and may create lethal superbugs that are antibiotic resistant. 
> If 
> that�s not enough, the bacteria-killing chemicals go down the drain and into 
> our waterways, harming wildlife and potentially ending up back in our bodies 
> where they can present health risks.
> 
> Although you have likely heard at least some of this before, you probably 
> still 
> reach for the antibacterial soap to clean your bathroom and wash your hands. 
> The 
> psychological draw is undeniable. In fact, scientists� warnings have not 
> dampened the burgeoning market. Antibacterial products are a one billion 
> dollar 
> industry and make up nearly 80 percent of all liquid soaps. In 2003, there 
> were 
> fewer than 200 antibacterial products on the market; currently there are over 
> 3,000.
> 
> The biggest�and most publicized�concern is whether antibacterial products, 
> like the overuse of antibiotics, will eventually create more of the 
> untreatable 
> bacteria we fear. By creating a hostile environment, antibacterial agents 
> promote strains of bacteria with certain mutations that allow them to 
> survive. 
> These superbugs are also more likely to be immune to antibiotics. The most 
> commonly used antimicrobial in soaps�triclosan�has already shown resistance 
> to S. aureous.
> 
> No Better Than Regular Soap
> Still, the most important piece of information when you are staring at an 
> aisle 
> full of cleansers is whether or not the antibacterial soaps fulfill their 
> promise. 
> 
> According to the Food and Drug Administration and the American Medical 
> Association, they are no more effective at preventing infections than regular 
> soap. The bacteria-killing chemicals in common over-the-counter soaps are too 
> diluted to kill the heartier microbes that pose the most threat to humans; 
> they 
> do not present any advantage over using regular soap. Plus, the average 
> person 
> is a lazy hand washer. Most of us wash our hands for less than ten 
> seconds�five seconds is the norm�which gives the toxins little chance to 
> bind to the bacteria and do their job. In one study, a standard strain of E. 
> coli had to be bathed in store-bought antibacterial soap for a minimum of two 
> hours before being killed. Mutated strains survived for twice as long. 
> 
> So, these antibacterial agents, having failed at their mission, are then 
> washed 
> down the drain where they go on to cause serious environmental problems. Even 
> after water purification, a large percentage of the toxins remain, entering 
> our 
> waterways and our bodies. A 2007 study detected triclosan in seventeen of 
> twenty-one people. The chemicals were found in blood samples, urine, and 
> breast 
> milk. While it�s not yet clear that these chemicals negatively impact humans, 
> animal studies show that triclocarban interferes with rat reproduction and 
> triclosan triggers tadpoles to mature into frogs at a much more rapid rate. 
> Because of their unknown effects in humans, many scientists advise against 
> taking the risk. There is also evidence that when triclosan is mixed with 
> chlorine�even the low levels common in drinking water�it creates a toxin 
> that has been identified as a probable carcinogen.
> 
> While the research on the negative effects of antibacterial soaps is far from 
> definitive, the evidence that they are no better at preventing illness than 
> regular soap is. So why use them? It doesn�t mean giving up on hygiene. 
> Don�t stop washing your hands�or start eating off the floor, for that 
> matter. Buy a regular bar or hand soap that doesn�t contain unnecessary 
> chemicals or look for brands with natural ingredients. And when you are 
> washing 
> your hands with your non-antibacterial soap, do it right. Lather up for ten 
> seconds and rub hard. Exfoliation is the best way to rid your skin of 
> bacteria. 
> Most importantly, until more is known about antimicrobial chemicals, avoid 
> them 
> if you are pregnant or have an infant. If triclosan and triclocarban are 
> dangerous to humans, the smaller the body, the greater the harm they can 
> cause.
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