Couldn't have said it better myself.
---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Genre Shows Going, Going ... Gone? Date : Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:01:45 -0500 From : Adrianne Brennan <adrianne.bren...@gmail.com> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Admittedly, I'm a huge fan of both him and David Tennant. I blame being a Whovian on that. :D But still. I hate remakes for the most part. Why bother? If it ain't broke.... ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in Book 1 Bound: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/theoath_bound.html On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > Amen to that, sister! > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Genre Shows Going, Going ... Gone? > > Date : Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:55:39 -0500 > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > Not surprised, though. I can't believe that the US tried to remake a > perfectly good British show yet again. Life on Mars is nothing without its > original cast, especially John Simm. > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > Dare to take The Oath in Book 1 Bound: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/theoath_bound.html > > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 10:42 PM, wrote: > > > Too bad about Sarah Connor and Life on Mars, both good shows. A show > > that's obviously staying I don't get is "The Mentalist". I tried to watch > > "The Mentalist" a couple of times, and just didn't get all the raves. > It's > > highly rated, gets praise, but I thought it was only okay. A bit obvious > and > > self-important. Frankly, I prefer the humorous take on observational > prowess > > depicted in "Psych". > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "Tracey de Morsella" > > > > > > Genre Shows Going, Going ... Gone? > > > > > > > > > By MICHAEL HINMAN > > > Jan-31-2009 > > > ShareThis > > > > > > Michael Ausiello over at Entertainment Weekly has shared some bad news > > for > > > fans of "Kyle XY." The ABC Family show is calling it quits after its > > current > > > run of episodes, but there could be other genre shows close behind. > > > > > > Over the past week, SyFy Portal has been talking to various studio > > sources > > > trying to get a handle on whether genre fans will have a chance to > > continue > > > seeing a ton of program in 2009-10, or if there will be a bloodbath > > coming > > > up. > > > > > > So if you're curious about whether your show is going or gone ... > here's > > the > > > latest. > > > > > > Fringe (Fox) > > > STATUS: Staying > > > > > > Fox has had nothing but praise for the latest outing from J.J. Abrams > and > > > the other masterminds behind the upcoming "Star Trek XI," and while > > ratings > > > haven't been homerun-ish like "House < > > http://syfyportal.com/news426021.html> > > > ," they've been enough to celebrate. > > > > > > There was some fear about what might happen to the show when "House" > was > > > removed as its lead-in, but "American Idol" has been much better for > the > > > show, where overnight audiences have jumped 34 percent since the > change. > > > > > > And while "Fringe" did get its best rating following the season > premiere > > of > > > "House" before quickly falling back down to where it had been tracking, > > the > > > second episode coming out of "American Idol" has done just as strong, > > losing > > > less than 3 percent of its previous week's audience. > > > > > > Heroes (NBC) > > > STATUS: Staying > > > > > > It might be easy to write the obituary of "Heroes," but NBC still > remains > > > committed to the show. Network executives are hoping that some of the > > house > > > cleaning they did late last year moving out some producers and making > > room > > > for some familiar faces like Bryan Fuller will be just what's needed to > > help > > > the show regain its spark. > > > > > > Even if ratings don't improve too much on the upcoming volume that > begins > > > Monday, NBC isn't concerned. Most of their changes came late in the > game > > on > > > this season, and unless there is just a huge implosion, executives seem > > to > > > be interested in giving "Heroes" at least 13 more episodes after that. > > > > > > Knight Rider (NBC) > > > STATUS: Going > > > > > > We are hearing a lot of chatter that NBC is just not happy with how > > "Knight > > > Rider" turned out. Despite the objections of its executive producer, > Gary > > > Scott Thompson, the network cleaned house there and retooled the > series. > > > > > > On top of that, there seems to be a lot of heated communications > between > > the > > > show and the network, which could end up with a leadership change if > the > > > network decides to continue the series past the first season. > > > > > > But that doesn't seem likely. "Knight Rider" is far more expensive to > > > produce than "Bionic Woman" was, and it can't even come close to the > > > audience that "Bionic Woman" drew. > > > > > > NBC is already taking drastic steps to cut expenses and clean out its > > > schedule -- like putting Jay Leno on five nights a week in the 10 p.m. > > slot > > > -- so it seems highly unlikely they will make the room for "Knight > > Rider." > > > > > > Life On Mars (ABC) > > > STATUS: Going > > > > > > Sadly, life doesn't look good for "Life On Mars" either. Despite SyFy > > > Portal's own pleas to bring viewers to this show, it doesn't seem to be > > > happening. > > > > > > ABC had hoped putting "Life On Mars" as the "Lost" lead-out would work, > > but > > > for some reason, no show has ever been able to survive as a lead-out > from > > > "Lost." > > > > > > And now it seems "Life On Mars" could be the next victim. The show lost > a > > > quarter of its audience in the move, and right now it needs to retain > > every > > > single eyeball it can. If the ratings don't bounce back this coming > week, > > > then Sam Tyler is as good as dead. > > > > > > The Middleman (ABC Family) > > > STATUS: Gone > > > > > > ABC Family never seemed to be very keen about this show, and it's > > probably > > > not a surprise. Trying to find something to excite the audience it drew > > with > > > "Kyle XY," this quirky drama seemed like the best fit. > > > > > > And while "The Middleman" is a hit with die-hard genre fans, it has not > > > appealed to a wide audience. > > > > > > Fans have been waiting months for a decision on whether or not there > will > > be > > > a second season, but that silence has spoke volumes. "The Middleman's" > > ride > > > is over. > > > > > > Pushing Daisies (ABC) > > > STATUS: Gone > > > > > > No one knows what happened here. "Pushing Daisies" has remained a > darling > > of > > > critics across the board, and have done nothing but heap praise on the > > show, > > > even in its second season. But for some reason, audiences didn't feel > the > > > same way, or were just too busy to show up. > > > > > > It's hard to explain what audiences are going to do sometimes. Hell, > many > > > people thought putting "Life On Mars" after "Lost" was a great idea, > but > > > even that came back with a surprising result. > > > > > > Bryan Fuller is a great television < > > http://syfyportal.com/news426021.html> > > > creator, and the world created with "Pushing Daisies" will be missed. > But > > > alas, not even Ned's magical touch can help this show. > > > > > > Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox) > > > STATUS: Going > > > > > > For some reason, whenever we talk about the demise of some series, fans > > who > > > are not familiar with SyFy Portal think we just don't like a show. That > > > couldn't be further from the truth with "Terminator: The Sarah Connor > > > Chronicles." > > > > > > In fact, many of us on staff love this show, and want the audience to > > love > > > it, too. But they haven't been there, and the economy is not friendly > > enough > > > with the studios right now to let them hold on to expensive productions > > that > > > are not generating the returns they need. > > > > > > Ironically, it was the economy that saved "Sarah Connor" at the last > > minute, > > > as it would be more expensive to replace it mid-season than to simply > let > > it > > > run its course. > > > > > > We're excited about this second chance, and hope that it will thrive > > paired > > > up with Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse." But it has to do more than simply > > rebound > > > ... it likely will have to double its audience to get off the > > cancellation > > > radar of Fox, and we're worried that just won't happen. > > > > > > Smallville (The CW) > > > STATUS: Staying > > > > > > Last summer, if someone asked The CW if "Smallville" was going to see a > > > ninth season, the unmistakable sound of laughter would fill the room. > But > > > ratings for the Superman show this season have been surprisingly strong > > > despite the loss of the show's creators and its main villain. > > > > > > In fact, it seems that the changes were the breath of fresh air this > show > > > needed, and if The CW can do anything about it, they want this show > back. > > > > > > Of course, it's all up to the stars, especially Tom Welling. Do they > have > > > the steel for another 22 episodes? Fans hope they do. > > > > > > Supernatural (The CW) > > > STATUS: Staying > > > > > > The audiences are slightly smaller, but come on, The CW has no other > show > > > besides "Smallville" -- and that includes "90210" -- that gets the buzz > > > "Supernatural" does. > > > > > > Hunky actors, strong stories, and loyal viewers all translate to what > > should > > > be at least another year of life for this show. > > > > > > Of course, who knows what the future will bring. Networks have a way of > > > throwing logic out the window sometimes, and even changing their mind. > > While > > > this is a bit of a snapshot on where those executives are right now on > > these > > > different shows, we're just a little more than halfway through the > > season, > > > and a lot can happen. > > > > > > So buckle that seatbelt and enjoy the ride. > > > > > > http://syfyportal.com/news426021.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo > ! > > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: "Tracey de Morsella" > > To: > > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 19:15:32 +0000 > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Genre Shows Going, Going ... Gone? > > > > Genre Shows Going, Going ... Gone? > > > > By MICHAEL HINMAN > > Jan-31-2009 > > ShareThis > > > > Michael Ausiello over at *Entertainment Weekly* has shared some bad news > > for fans of "Kyle XY." The ABC Family show is calling it quits after its > > current run of episodes, but there could be other genre shows close > behind. > > > > Over the past week, SyFy Portal has been talking to various studio > sources > > trying to get a handle on whether genre fans will have a chance to > continue > > seeing a ton of program in 2009-10, or if there will be a bloodbath > coming > > up. > > > > So if you're curious about whether your show is going or gone ... here's > > the latest. > > > > *Fringe (Fox) > > STATUS:* Staying > > > > Fox has had nothing but praise for the latest outing from J.J. Abrams and > > the other masterminds behind the upcoming "Star Trek XI," and while > ratings > > haven't been homerun-ish like "House," > > they've been enough to celebrate. > > > > There was some fear about what might happen to the show when "House" was > > removed as its lead-in, but "American Idol" has been much better for the > > show, where overnight audiences have jumped 34 percent since the change. > > > > And while "Fringe" did get its best rating following the season premiere > of > > "House" before quickly falling back down to where it had been tracking, > the > > second episode coming out of "American Idol" has done just as strong, > losing > > less than 3 percent of its previous week's audience. > > > > *Heroes (NBC) > > STATUS:* Staying > > > > It might be easy to write the obituary of "Heroes," but NBC still remains > > committed to the show. Network executives are hoping that some of the > house > > cleaning they did late last year moving out some producers and making > room > > for some familiar faces like Bryan Fuller will be just what's needed to > help > > the show regain its spark. > > > > Even if ratings don't improve too much on the upcoming volume that begins > > Monday, NBC isn't concerned. Most of their changes came late in the game > on > > this season, and unless there is just a huge implosion, executives seem > to > > be interested in giving "Heroes" at least 13 more episodes after that. > > > > *Knight Rider (NBC) > > STATUS:* Going > > > > We are hearing a lot of chatter that NBC is just not happy with how > "Knight > > Rider" turned out. Despite the objections of its executive producer, Gary > > Scott Thompson, the network cleaned house there and retooled the series. > > > > On top of that, there seems to be a lot of heated communications between > > the show and the network, which could end up with a leadership change if > the > > network decides to continue the series past the first season. > > > > But that doesn't seem likely. "Knight Rider" is far more expensive to > > produce than "Bionic Woman" was, and it can't even come close to the > > audience that "Bionic Woman" drew. > > > > NBC is already taking drastic steps to cut expenses and clean out its > > schedule -- like putting Jay Leno on five nights a week in the 10 p.m. > slot > > -- so it seems highly unlikely they will make the room for "Knight > Rider." > > > > *Life On Mars (ABC) > > STATUS:* Going > > > > Sadly, life doesn't look good for "Life On Mars" either. Despite SyFy > > Portal's own pleas to bring viewers to this show, it doesn't seem to be > > happening. > > > > ABC had hoped putting "Life On Mars" as the "Lost" lead-out would work, > but > > for some reason, no show has ever been able to survive as a lead-out from > > "Lost." > > > > And now it seems "Life On Mars" could be the next victim. The show lost a > > quarter of its audience in the move, and right now it needs to retain > every > > single eyeball it can. If the ratings don't bounce back this coming week, > > then Sam Tyler is as good as dead. > > > > *The Middleman (ABC Family) > > STATUS:* Gone > > > > ABC Family never seemed to be very keen about this show, and it's > probably > > not a surprise. Trying to find something to excite the audience it drew > with > > "Kyle XY," this quirky drama seemed like the best fit. > > > > And while "The Middleman" is a hit with die-hard genre fans, it has not > > appealed to a wide audience. > > > > Fans have been waiting months for a decision on whether or not there will > > be a second season, but that silence has spoke volumes. "The Middleman's" > > ride is over. > > > > *Pushing Daisies (ABC) > > STATUS:* Gone > > > > No one knows what happened here. "Pushing Daisies" has remained a darling > > of critics across the board, and have done nothing but heap praise on the > > show, even in its second season. But for some reason, audiences didn't > feel > > the same way, or were just too busy to show up. > > > > It's hard to explain what audiences are going to do sometimes. Hell, many > > people thought putting "Life On Mars" after "Lost" was a great idea, but > > even that came back with a surprising result. > > > > Bryan Fuller is a great television creator, and the world created with > "Pushing Daisies" will be missed. But > > alas, not even Ned's magical touch can help this show. > > > > *Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox) > > STATUS:* Going > > > > For some reason, whenever we talk about the demise of some series, fans > who > > are not familiar with SyFy Portal think we just don't like a show. That > > couldn't be further from the truth with "Terminator: The Sarah Connor > > Chronicles." > > > > In fact, many of us on staff love this show, and want the audience to > love > > it, too. But they haven't been there, and the economy is not friendly > enough > > with the studios right now to let them hold on to expensive productions > that > > are not generating the returns they need. > > > > Ironically, it was the economy that saved "Sarah Connor" at the last > > minute, as it would be more expensive to replace it mid-season than to > > simply let it run its course. > > > > We're excited about this second chance, and hope that it will thrive > paired > > up with Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse." But it has to do more than simply > rebound > > ... it likely will have to double its audience to get off the > cancellation > > radar of Fox, and we're worried that just won't happen. > > > > *Smallville (The CW) > > STATUS:* Staying > > > > Last summer, if someone asked The CW if "Smallville" was going to see a > > ninth season, the unmistakable sound of laughter would fill the room. But > > ratings for the Superman show this season have been surprisingly strong > > despite the loss of the show's creators and its main villain. > > > > In fact, it seems that the changes were the breath of fresh air this show > > needed, and if The CW can do anything about it, they want this show back. > > > > Of course, it's all up to the stars, especially Tom Welling. Do they have > > the steel for another 22 episodes? Fans hope they do. > > > > *Supernatural (The CW) > > STATUS:* Staying > > > > The audiences are slightly smaller, but come on, The CW has no other show > > besides "Smallville" -- and that includes "90210" -- that gets the buzz > > "Supernatural" does. > > > > Hunky actors, strong stories, and loyal viewers all translate to what > > should be at least another year of life for this show. > > > > Of course, who knows what the future will bring. Networks have a way of > > throwing logic out the window sometimes, and even changing their mind. > While > > this is a bit of a snapshot on where those executives are right now on > these > > different shows, we're just a little more than halfway through the > season, > > and a lot can happen. > > > > So buckle that seatbelt and enjoy the ride. > > > > http://syfyportal.com/news426021.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
