I was thinking of "Harlem Nights" too. It wasn't a great movie, but I liked the more serious role Pryor was playing. It makes me wonder if he could have done a decent job as a dramatic actor, given the chance. Unfortunately, Eddie Murphy was the force behind the movie, and he was really full of himself at that time. Both Pryor and Redd Fox talked to Murphy about toning down the cursing and more slapstick aspects of the movie, but he refused to listen to them. Pryor says he and Foxx told Murphy, "We did all the cursing and stuff so you don't have to anymore". I wish Murphy had listened. The movie was uneven, and stuff like his fight with Della Reese, and subsequent shooting off her toe, was ill placed, unfunny, and a bit misogynistic to my mind.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lavender Wil" <nx_31...@yahoo.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:42:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The Box Office The only movie that I liked him in was Harlem Nights. You have to admit it was a movie with a lot of great one liners. One that I don't think I could say here, but I am sure Vera can!! --Lavender People may lie, but the evidence rarely does. ----- Original Message ---- From: B. Smith < daikaij...@yahoo.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:21:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The Box Office I like quite a few Richard Pryor movies. I don't think he ever found the perfect part but I loved him stuff like Which Way Is Up?, Blue Collar, Stir Crazy and Jo Jo Dancer. He also stole the show in smaller roles like the ones in Lady Sings The Blues, Bingo Long, Uptown Saturday Night, Car Wash, etc. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@...> wrote: > > I don't like a single movie Pryor ever did. Every time I stumble across one, I'm left saddened, seeing how his true chops were, mostly because of That Evil Pipe. Heck, he was supposed to play Sheriff Bart in "Blazing Saddles". > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The Box Office > Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:29:38 -0500 > >From : Daryle Lockhart <dar...@...> > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Richard Pryor was the man, but let's face it...he's done more BAD > films than good ones. > > Will Ferrell was "eh" until "Anchorman", because if you look at it, > the best Will Ferrell is him playing offa Cheri Oteri. Christina > Applegate proved herself to be a great straight man but doesn't get > overshadowed. Will has never done any better than "Anchorman", in my > opinion. It's his best picture. He will never outdo it. I don't think > Land Of the Lost is going to be a great Will Ferrell movie as much > as it's going to be "this is what Brendan Fraser should be doing". > > On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Daryle, we didn't see the same movie. > > > > To me, Ferrell has been a one-note band for years. Maybe I just > > don't get his stuff. It's been a long time since I synched with > > comedians. Blame Richard Pryor for being so great... > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > > > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing > > At The Box Office > > > > Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:48:28 -0500 > > > > From : Daryle Lockhart > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > I submit that "Anchorman" is possibly Will Ferrell's greatest film. > > Also, it may be one of the greatest comedy films of the last 10 > > years. Except for the fact that it's the whitest movie since > > Sophie's Choice, It's a flawless cast with flawless acting. I say > > this after just watching Tropic Thunder. That's my submission, and > > I am open to debate. > > > > > > On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:37 PM, B. Smith wrote: > > > >> No love for Anchorman? > >> > >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Ha-ha! I like Will Ferrell in small doses. Long after the hype on > >> him had built, I sat down and watched "Talladega Nights" where he was > >> NASCAR racer "Ricky Bobby", and laughed my butt off. But that was > >> only the second or third movie I'd seen him in. I also enjoyed his > >> more subtle turn in "Stranger Than Fiction", the movie where his life > >> was literally being controlled by an author's keystrokes. And "Elf" > >> gave me some chuckles as well. I think I saw "Elf", then "Stranger > >> Than Fiction", then "Talladega Nights", giving me silly comedy, > >> subtle comedy/drama, then silly comedy again. That was sufficient. > >>> > >>> But Ferrell needs to quit doing the same old type comedy film. His > >> turns in the films about ice skating and basketball, for example, are > >> all variations of the same Ricky Bobby scheme, so I avoided them. He > >> has the looks and I think the chops to do other stuff. I don't know > >> if he can carve the niche of understated, nuanced actor that Bill > >> Murray has found for his career. But I think he might be able to do > >> at least as well as Adam Sandler, who's actually not half bad when he > >> backs off the stupid comedies and reigns himself in for roles like > >> that in "Spanglish", or "50 First Dates". Ferrell has had training, > >> like many comedians he gets the drama underlying life, and I think he > >> could start branching out a bit more. > >>> > >>> I'm always intrigued at watching comedic actors who get their start > >> or fame in really silly, over-the-top roles, who can also pull off > >> the more subtle stuff. Not everyone can do both: Chevy Chase, for > >> example. But actors like Steve Martin, Sandler, Murray, Robin > >> Williams, Eddie Murphy (he has the ability, just not the will I > >> guess), Steve Carell all have that talent,and I think Ferrell does > >> too. He's made the dough, now it's time to stretch... > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Martin Baxter" > >>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > >>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:38:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada > >> Eastern > >>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The > >> Box Office > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Keith, you forgot to include Will Ferrell. I'm certain that > >> it was due to your own mental self-defenses kicking in... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > >>> Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The > >> Box Office > >>> Date : Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:21:34 +0000 (UTC) > >>> From : Keith Johnson > >>> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > >>> > >>> > >>> Funny. He isn't a guaranteed big draw for me. Among male actors, > >> I'm much more likely to see a flick with Don Cheadle, Chiwetel > >> Ejiofor, Clive Owen, Viggo Mortensen, Robert Duvall. Maybe De Niro if > >> it's not Meet the Parents or Righteous Kill type crap. And I'd > >> actually place Clooney higher up on my list than Smith. In fact, I > >> can't remember the last time I saw a movie because Smith was in it. I > >> saw "Hancock" and "I Am Legend" because they were scifi, and "Hitch" > >> because it was a romantic comedy I could share with my wife. The > >> other males below, I'll certainly consider--especially Damon and Di > >> Caprio--but depends on the type of movie they're in. I will say, I do > >> wish Christian Slater were still doing good work, for he'd certainly > >> be on my list. > >>> > >>> For female actors, my list would have to include Judi Dench, Angela > >> Bassett (keep hoping she finally finds the roles that utilize her > >> massive talent), Meryl Streep (who's really impressed me with her > >> continually good work as she gets older), Kimberly Elise (woefully > >> underappreciated actress), Taraji P. Henson (hard not to be engaged > >> with, even with unintentionally funny stuff like "He don't love me > >> no 'mo'!" in "Baby Boy"), Cate Blanchett, Jodi Foster, Queen Latifah > >> (good dramatic and comedic actress), Sanaa Lathan. > >>> > >>> They ought to list the actors guaranteed to kill a movie, to drive > >> people away. For me, that would include Adam Sandler (don't get his > >> humour), Pauly Shore (how does he get work?), Jim Carey (most of his > >> stuff is too manic for me), David Spade (loved him on TV, can't abide > >> his film work), Mila Jovovich (horrible movie choices), Kate Hudson > >> (she's sure to star in wretched romantic comedies that make you gag). > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Tracey de Morsella" > >>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "CINQUE" > >>> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 5:53:22 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada > >> Eastern > >>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The Box > >> Office > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The Box Office > >>> > >>> > >>> 12 February 2009 1:27 AM, PST > >>> > >>> Will Smith has again emerged as the film star whose name on the > >> marquee guarantees a movie's success, according to most analysts. In > >> Forbes magazine's Star Currency survey, Smith was the only film star > >> to receive a perfect score of 10. Others in the top ten included: > >> Leonardo DiCaprio , Angelina Jolie , Brad Pitt , Tom Hanks , George > >> Clooney , Denzel Washington , Matt Damon , Jack Nicholson , and Julia > >> Roberts . > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds > ------------------------------------ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links
