Ever so happy not to ruin!
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Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] "Watchmen": Sex! Blood! Superheroes!
Date : Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:52:16 +0000 (UTC)
From : Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Intriguing! And thanks so much, guys, for not putting any spoilers out. I have
*no* clue as to this ending of whodunit you're discussing, but will find out in
a week or two, as I'm buying the work tomorrow.
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From: "Martin Baxter"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:10:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] "Watchmen": Sex! Blood! Superheroes!
B, we'll never know, because we can't be sure if they tried, or even
intended to. If they're making the movie for the fans of the comic, they should
have enough faith in our intelligence to believe that we would get the moment.
And, for those who aren't, I'd hope that they were intelligent enough to puzzle
it out.
But then, I ask a lot of the world sometimes...
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Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] "Watchmen": Sex! Blood! Superheroes!
Date : Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:04:27 -0000
>From : "B. Smith"
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
I've posted about my love for Watchmen many times and I can
understand why they tweaked the big reveal. The original climax is a
great WTF??? comic book moment but it might not translate well.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart wrote:
>
> I heard last night from someone who saw the movie that it's the
> greatest comic book movie ever made. To which I said "Greater
> than Spider-Man 2?" And they said "SO much better."
>
> So now I don't know what to think.
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2009, at 1:02 PM, B. Smith wrote:
>
> > I've heard that the movie is uber faithful until the end.
Sometimes
> > that can work (see Jaws) and sometimes it fails miserably.
> >
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It'll make the studio its money back, easily. But there will be
a
> > LOT of disappointed (read p*ssed-off) fans coming out of the
theaters.
> > >
> > > Martin (again waving the "Animation Now, Animation Forever"
banner)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Subject : [scifinoir2] "Watchmen": Sex! Blood! Superheroes!
> > >
> > Date : Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:00:04 -0000
> > >
> > From : "ravenadal"
> > >
> > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20259927,00.html
> > >
> > > By Jeff Jensen
> > >
> > > They have come to glimpse the miracle. They have come to
witness the
> > > revolution. They have come for Watchmen  the allegedly
unfilmable
> > > superhero movie, the long-awaited adaptation of the comic book
that
> > > changed the face of comic books forever. On this warm July
morning,
> > > over 5,000 fans attending the annual geek pop summit known as
> > > Comic-Con have assembled inside the San Diego Convention Center
for
> > a
> > > first look. Many spent the night on the sidewalk. Some have
come in
> > > costumes  most modeled after Rorschach, a vigilante with an
> > inkblot
> > > mask and a pitiless brand of justice that makes Batman look like
> > > Bambi. Behind the stage, indie-movie icon Kevin Smith, a.k.a.
the
> > Most
> > > Famous Fanboy in the World, parks himself in front of a closed-
> > circuit
> > > TV, a happy grin on his bearded mug. ''You have to understand,
I've
> > > been waiting for this moment for years,'' says Smith. ''This is
it,
> > > man. This is the pinnacle. You have no idea how f---ing pumped I
> > am.''
> > >
> > > All this, for a violent, ironic superhero epic that doesn't like
> > > superheroes in the first place. Directed by 300's Zack Snyder,
> > > Watchmen presents a set of familiar superhero archetypes  and
then
> > > subverts them completely, turning them into criminals, jerks,
> > > narcissists, megalomaniacs, and plain ol' whiny wusses.
Rorschach
> > > (Jackie Earl Haley) is like the Spirit...except he's a joyless,
> > > hard-line misanthrope. The Comedian (Jeffrey Dean Morgan) is
like
> > > Captain America...but loyal only to sadistic thrills and a
corrupt
> > > worldview. Nite Owl (Patrick Wilson) is part Batman, part Iron
> > > Man...except he's also a schlubby, impotent coward. Ozymandias
> > > (Matthew Goode) is the resident genius...who's built an empire
on
> > > superhero toys. (You see what we mean by irony.) Says Billy
Crudup,
> > > whose blue, naked Dr. Manhattan is an almighty Superman
dangerously
> > > detached from his own humanity: ''Watchmen is a kind of
thrilling
> > > thought experiment. What would people who dress up in costumes
to
> > > fight crime actually be like? Well, they'd probably be
fetishists
> > who
> > > lived on the fringes of society. They'd all be a bunch of
freaking
> > > lunatics.''
> > >
> > > Yet for all its self-awareness and cynicism, Watchmen isn't some
> > > cheap-and-silly Scary Movie parody. Adapted faithfully, if not
> > > completely, from the celebrated 1986 comic-book series, Snyder's
> > film
> > > is visually and intellectually ambitious, filled with heady
> > > ruminations about savior figures, pop culture, and the politics
of
> > > fear. At a time when superhero stories are commonplace and our
> > shaken
> > > country is pinning its recovery on an idealistic new president,
> > > Watchmen's director believes his movie can serve as a bracing
blast
> > of
> > > healthy skepticism. ''Someone asked me if I thought that because
> > > Barack Obama had been elected president, the movie was no longer
> > > relevant. I said, 'Wow, that's a very optimistic view of the
> > > future!''' says Snyder. ''The movie, like the comic,
says, 'These
> > > superhero stories you've been feasting on? What if we took them
> > > seriously? What if we thought through the consequences? Where do
> > they
> > > get us?' That's the fun.''
> > >
> > > NEXT PAGE: ''I felt like Watchmen was this very, very bad thing
> > that I
> > > shouldn't be reading, and if my mom caught me with it I'd be f--
-ing
> > > doomed.''
> > >
> > > http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20259927,00.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
