i have 2 side with Martin on this one. the book was a hard read. after
reading it (30 years ago) i never picked up another one in the series. the
movie was better in that it had the action and the ambiance of Paul being
powerful. the mini-series had more of the plots and sub-plots that showed the
inner workings of the politics behind what was going on. so i would go with
Martin and say i enjoyed them both. because they both showed different parts
of the whole story.
Fate.
--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@lycos.com> wrote:
From: Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@lycos.com>
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movies set for remake
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 12:28 PM
I liked both the movie and the miniseries equally. The movie, IMO, got
the mythos down far better than the mini did, the notion that Paul was meant to
be a truly grand and powerful figure in the Universe. The mini humanized him a
little too much for my taste. Keith, I won't refer to your not having read the
novel as sacrilege. It was a hard read for me, and I've never picked it up
since, almost thirty-five years ago.
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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Movies set for remake
Date : Wed, 27 May 2009 21:06:07 -0700
From : "Mr. Worf" <HelloMahogany@ gmail.com>
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
I liked the original movie more than the miniseries. There was a sense of
style in the movie although not totally coherent that I liked. The
miniseries was missing all of that. There was also less action in it and
more of a soap opera feel to it.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:
>
>
> Stephen Sommers directing "When Worlds Collide"? Man that scares me. I
> hated "Van Helsing", and thought the "Mummy" movies were barely adequate.
>
> As for "Dune", I didn't mind the David Lynch effort. I like it's
> atmospheric take, the music, the look. Of course, I've never read "Dune" (I
> know! Sacrilege!). The SciFi miniseries a few years back was a different
> take that I think fans liked better...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mr. Worf"
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:10:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Movies set for remake
>
>
>
> This was taken from one of the classes I'm in. I don't have the source of
> the article.
>
> Movies set for remake
>
> "Robocop"
>
> If the Terminator can get tuned up for a revival, why not that other 1980s
> mechanical hero? After several fits and starts, MGM announced in March that
> a reboot of “Robocop” would be in theaters in 2010. Darren Aronofsky (“The
> Wrestler,” “Requiem for a Dream”) is directing the remake of Paul
> Verhoeven’s bloody movie about a Detroit cop who is gunned down but then put
> back on patrol as a cyborg with troubled soul
>
>
> "The Terminator"
>
> It’s not a remake, but filmmaker McG’s plan to revive the killer robot
> franchise with a new sequel next summer starring Christian Bale as John
> Connor has been circled by fans after a strong showing this past summer at
> Comic-Con International. “Terminator Salvation” is set in the future and
> shows the grim war between humans and Skynet with its murderous metallic
> armies. The plan is for a full trilogy …
>
>
> "When Worlds Collide"
>
> Steven Spielberg is one of the producers and Stephen Sommers (“The Mummy,”
> “Van Helsing”), infamous for his “give me more” attitude toward CGI effects,
> is directing. Like the original 1951 film produced by George Pal, this
> “Worlds,” due in theaters next year, is about the mad scramble to build a
> spaceship to save humanity before Earth is destroyed by a rogue planet
> entering its orbit. The problem comes when there aren’t enough seats for
> everybody on Earth.
>
> Gail says: The conflict is, of course, a remake of the old ethical dilemma
> used in every beginning ethics class since time began: If the lifeboat only
> has room for 12 people and there are 13 to be saved who gets left behind?
>
>
> "Ghostbusters"
>
> There’s talk of making a third installment in the hugely successful sci-fi
> comedy franchise and bringing back the original crew -- Bill Murray, Dan
> Aykroyd, Harold Ramis and Ernie Hudson -- as well as some new-blood,
> second-generation busters. Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky, writers for
> “The Office,” are at work on the script for Columbia Pictures and Murray, in
> the past the most reluctant to return to the franchise, has said publicly
> that he’s open to the idea. There was talk of Seth Rogen being a likely cast
> addition but don’t bother calling him: “It sounds,” he said in October,
> “like the worst idea ever."
>
>
> "Logan's Run"
>
> This is a remake that can’t seem to find sanctuary even after a decade of
> attempts. A few years ago, Bryan Singer (“The X-Men,” “The Usual Suspects”)
> was all set to re-imagine the 1976 movie about a society where everyone
> submits to state-ordered execution parlors on their 30th birthday or gets
> hunted down by agents called Sandmen (the age was 21 in the 1967 novel by
> William F. Nolan and George Clayton Johnson that served as source material).
> Singer dropped out to make “Superman Returns,” though, and now producer Joel
> Silver (“The Matrix” films) appears intent to regenerate with a newcomer as
> director, namely Joseph Kosinski, who has made his name in television
> commercials.
>
>
> "Flash Gordon"
>
> After the “Black Lagoon” remake, director Eisner is planning to revive
> Flash Gordon for Columbia, bringing back the brand that hit the silver
> screen in 1980 with the campy Dino DeLaurentiis production that so memorably
> featured the music of Queen, not to mention the unexpectedly galactic pair
> of Topol and Timothy Dalton. Alex Raymond’s classic space hero, originally
> created as a comic strip rival to Buck Rogers, celebrates his 75th
> anniversary in pop culture next month but it's not clear that his retro
> appeal still holds. Earlier this year, Sci Fi canceled its “Flash Gordon”
> series, which had ratings that proved that Ming isn’t the one who is
> merciless.
>
>
> "The Creature from the Black Lagoon"
>
> Breck Eisner, the director of “Sahara” and son of former Disney chief
> Michael Eisner, is directing while screenwriter Gary Ross is on board to
> retell the story of an Amazon River expedition that crosses paths with a
> prehistoric amphibian humanoid. The presence of Ross gives the 2009 release
> a link to the original 1954 film — that Universal classic was written by his
> father, Arthur A. Ross. Bill Paxton's name has come up as one of the rumored
> cast members.
>
>
> "Westworld"
>
> The late Michael Crichton wrote and directed the 1973 sci-fi thriller about
> a theme park where rich visitors can live out fantasies like engaging in Old
> West gunfights, thanks to the park’s androids, such as the menacing robot
> cowboy memorably portrayed by Yul Brynner. Just like in his “Jurassic Park,”
> though, you know things are going to go badly for the smug and boozy
> tourists. Crichton had worked recently on a script for a remake (and, at one
> point, Quentin Tarantino was approached to direct) but the author’s death in
> November may mark the end of the reboot effort.
>
> Gail Says: The TV series Fantasy Island (1978 to 1984) was a loose take-off
> on the Westworld without the death, mayhem and drunkenness. A TV series
> remake in 1998 was somewhat darker than the original Fantasy Island. In
> addition, a short sentence from Wikipedia: On May 10, 2007, it was announced
> that comedian Eddie Murphy had been signed to star in a feature film comedy
> based on the 1977 series. Murphy will reportedly play multiple roles as well
> as Mr. Roarke. The film will be written by screenwriters Jay Scherick and
> David Ronn[1]
>
> "Frankenstein"
>
> Mary Shelley’s classic horror tale of science gone awry has given Hollywood
> shambling visions of cemetery horror for decades, among them Boris Karloff’s
> iconic 1930s performances and Robert DeNiro’s very different take in the
> 1994 Kenneth Branagh remake. Next up? Guillermo Del Toro says that after he
> finishes the two-film version of “The Hobbit” he will turn his attention to
> the gothic morality tale and that actor Doug Jones (Abe Sapien in “Hellboy”)
> might play the patchwork man. This one is still a long way off; “The Hobbit”
> films are due in theaters in 2010 and 2011. Del Toro has also talked about
> making a “Slaughterhouse Five” remake.
>
>
> "Fahrenheit 451"
>
> It’s been 55 years since the publication of Ray Bradbury’s dystopian novel
> about Guy Montag, a “fireman,” a term for state-employed book burners of the
> future. Francois Truffaut brought the story to the silver screen in 1966 and
> there have been numerous efforts over the past decade to cook up a remake,
> with Mel Gibson, Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt among the stars who have flirted
> with the Montag role at different points. Writer-director Frank Darabont
> (“The Green Mile,” “The Shawshank Redemption”) is on the job now with a
> planned 2010 release even though his announced star, Tom Hanks, dropped out
> of the project in March.
>
>
> Forbidden Planet"
>
> Producer Silver is also behind a planned revival of this 1956 classic that
> gave a sci-fi twist to Shakespeare’s “The Tempest” and starred Walter
> Pidgeon, Anne Francis and Leslie Nielsen long before his career tilted
> toward comedy. It also introduced the world to Robbie the Robot, a machine
> man who would show up in film and television shows for decades. At one
> point James Cameron (“Titanic,” “Aliens”) had flirted with a “Forbidden”
> remake but right now it’s not clear who will be directing. In October, it
> was announced that screenwriter J. Michael Straczynski (“The Changeling”) is
> on board.
>
>
> "The Illustrated Man"
>
> Another Bradbury work that is planned for a 2010 release (the year the
> author will celebrate his 90th birthday) is this project from the “Watchmen”
> duo of director Zack Snyder (who also directed “300”) and screenwriter Alex
> Tse. “The Illustrated Man” was a 1951 book of 18 short stories (including
> one, “Rocket Man,” that inspired the Elton John hit) that were linked by a
> bizarre framing device — a bum who is covered into tattoos from the future
> that move and represent the characters in the tales. It was made into a 1969
> film starring Rod Steiger but it’s not clear what direction Snyder is taking
> the property.
>
>
> "Dune"
>
> Actor and director Peter Berg ("Hancock," "The Kingdom") has stepped up to
> wrestle with an adaptation of the late Frank Herbert's grand intergalactic
> novel "Dune" and the plan is to have it in theaters in 2010, the 45th
> anniversary of the novel that would become the bestselling science-fiction
> title ever. David Lynch famously brought the story of cosmic spice wars to
> the screen in late 1984 (with a huge cast that included Kyle MacLachlan,
> Patrick Stewart, Sting, Max von Sydow and Virgina Madsen) but the final
> product left most viewers cold and confused and the "Blue Velvet" auteur
> himself later said he regretted the project.
>
>
>
>
>
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