forgot about that! Southern stereotypes are bad in the movie industry, that's for sure!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:06:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scarlet Johansson as Black Widow Yea I have seen that. Remember that old James Bond movie with Roger Moore? I think he was in Bangkok and they had the sheriff from Georgia on vacation. Chewing tobacco and all. :) On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: That's funny! I've seen several Hong Kong movies where the bad guys are cliched Americans with bad cliched American accents. Typically there's a Southerner or Texan, complete with big cowboy hat, boots, and cigar in the case of the latter. Jackie Chan's movies from the '90s--the ones that take place in America--are loaded with those bad stereotypes and bad actors faking accents badly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:51:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scarlet Johansson as Black Widow Ever see Kingdom of Heaven? I watched the director's cut of this 3 hour epic. There was a ethnically diverse cast but all of the main characters had english accents. (Liam Neison, Orlando Bloom) The main characters were supposed to be FRENCH. Only the bad guy had a French accent. Why didn't they?? I didn't know that they were supposed to be French until I watched the making of the film! I have seen some British films where the bad guy was either Russian or American. Which gives an interesting twist to things. (can't think of any examples though!) On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: And the frightening thing? I think you may be right! You know, it'd be fun to put together a list of the number of movies in which the star is from another country, and actually played by someone from another country, instead of an American faking an accent. Usually the foreigners get relegated to henchmen roles, or, get to play the bad guy in the movie. Foreign accents always seem to work as villainous ones in movies--I wonder, do Russian and British directors cast actors with fake American accents as their villains? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:00:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scarlet Johansson as Black Widow If they had a real russian then they would say that her accent was "too russian". :) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: Yeah, I get it, but I think Hollywood spends too much time trying to get "name" stars in certain roles. Maggie Gyllenhaal, for example, was cast as the new Rachel in "The Dark Knight". Did her casting really pull in anyone? Same for Katie Holmes, who was in the news 'cause of the bizarre marriage to Tom Cruise. Did having her really help the movie, past what the quality of the film itself did to draw audiences? Indeed, in every amateur and professional critical review of "Batman Begins", the one person cited as weak in the flick was Holmes. So I get it: Johannsen is considered hot, she has an old-school body that will look good in a tight-fighting costume. But if the movie is good, the action is good, and the story enjoyable, I contend they will do just as well with a no-name Russian actress as they will from whatever upfront audience she pulls in. Indeed, I'd say better, as a real Russian won't have to fake an accent. Just one of my movie pet peeves... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:35:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Scarlet Johansson as Black Widow They are going by popularity rating only. Hollywood is super formulaic. They probably could have found 3 dozen from here, but Scarlet Johannsen has more pull. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: I guess it's just me, but I've never understood why they can't find actors from the country their character calls home? There are no good, athletic Russian actresses to play Widow? ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Arterberry" < brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:16:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Scarlet Johansson as Black Widow http://thesuperficial.com/2009/07/scarlett_johansson_as_black_wi.php -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! 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