You brought up one of the things that was very true that was in the show. There are so many people dying everyday on this planet from things like lack of food or water. The real problem is that we haven't really learned how to spread and share our resources properly yet. On top of that you have places like Haiti where people try to get supplies to the people that need it and the supplies are stolen by members of the military or by bandits.
The "getting rid of the 10% of us that is a problem" was actually used in history several times. It was called Eugenics. It started in the US (forced sterilization between 1920-1960s, the murder of Indians.) and spread all over the world. The ultimate manifestation of Eugenics was Hitler's final solution. You can also say that it was used places like Rwanda as well. It never solves the problem. Getting back to the show, who is to say that there may have been a lot of exceptions in the 10% that they chose? How many doctors or lawyers, musicians, artists etc. may have come out of that 10%? The streets are where most of the new fashions and fads come from. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, angelababycat <asrobin...@mindspring.com>wrote: > > This might be a spoiler if you haven't made it through Ep. 5 yet, but I > would never ever let my daughter fry like that. You can argue it was the > right thing to do, but as the 456 so bluntly stated: a child dies every 3 > seconds on earth. No one's empting their own kid's college fund or settling > for a cheaper car/suit/vacation to feed starving children. So it's a heroic > act for the "better good" that we pass on every single day. > > Of course, as pointed out by the elite at the table, would a good culling > of the bottom 10 be so bad for the planet? After the initial horror of the > atrocity and political backlash faded away, wouldn't the world in fact be a > better place, less taxed with caring for the purportedly neediest > individuals? > > Either way, the FIRST time the children said "We are coming," I would have > emptied the bank accounts and gone into hiding with her. > > Also, it would have been interesting if they'd touched on different > societies' reactions to the call for 10%: a fuzy video clip of girls being > lined-up in China, a report of only Caucasion children being selected in > South Africa, the entire collection process going unnoticed in Mexican > border towns... > > I hope there's a future for Cush Jumbo in all this too. > > Yes, yes, lots to chew on! > > Angela > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Augustus Augustus <jazzynupe_...@...> > wrote: > > > > Rave! > > > > Loved the review. Nothing else is left 2 be said. I agree with all > points. 'Nuff said! > > > > Fate. > > > > --- On Fri, 7/24/09, ravenadal <ravena...@...> wrote: > > > > From: ravenadal <ravena...@...> > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Torchwood: Children of Earth > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:03 AM > > > > I watched episodes 1-4 last night. Great stuff! I > continue to appreciate the way people of color - particularly black people - > are seamlessly integrated into this alternate reality - and England is a > great backdrop "character" in this drama(And, you gotta love the chutzpa of > the British - still supercilious enough to believe they are the center of > the universe - which was ridiculous even when Sean Connery was still doing > his James Bond thing). > > > > Two things are refreshing: a)there are black people in the "future" and > (b)their integration from the bottom to the top of society is so commonplace > it is not even worth noting. I DO wish there had been more CHILDREN of color > represented but that is a small nit. > > > > I love "fourth wall" of episodic television has been broken down and > there are actual and devastating consequences to heroic action. > > > > I love the ethical dilemmas presented and how quickly and cavalierly they > are dismissed by the ruling class. The notion of oligarchy (masquerading as > meritocracy) vs. true meritocracy, in this context, is presented > brilliantly. > > > It also addresses one of the hoariest and most annoying (for me) cliches > of SF literature - the willingness of a conspirator to sacrifice millions to > save a loved one (I reference Dr. Yueh in "Dune" and Abe Sapien in "Hell Boy > II: the Golden Army"). Of course it is the right thing to sacrifice your > beloved for the greater good - I know it is the right thing to do - and, > yet, I don't know if I could pull the "save the universe as we know it" > trigger if it was my sacrifice of my son or my daughter that seals the deal. > > > > Oh, yeah, and the love affair between Captain Jack and Ianto Jones almost > rises to the level of "Brokeback Mountain," and that is about as high as > man-on-man love can go in popular culture. Captain Jack has lived a long > time and, like a western barroom door, obviously swings both ways, but I am > reminded of the comedic question of how many heterosexual conquests a > dedicated hound has to have before you are compelled to take a walk on the > "wild" side. Like the comedian says, "I want to know what that number is!" > > > > Lastly, entirely on a personal note, as a unrepentant nipponmaniac, I > lament the absence of Naoko Mori's Toshiko Sato. I can, however, be > placated if she is replaced by the fetching Lois Habiba (Cush Jumbo). I > mean, how cool is it that there is a central character named Lois Habiba? > Speaking of the resourceful Lois Habiba, you gotta love the stiff upper lip > British ethos of taking haughty pride in your position (or lot in life) no > matter what it is (like a valet calling himself a "gentleman's gentleman"). > "I am a PA (personal assistant)!" Lois states with certitude after super > efficiently delivering cointel to big eyed Gwen Cooper (Eve Myles). > > > > Good, heady stuff! Lots to chew on! > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, "B. Smith" <daikaiju66@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > Please tell me I'm not the only one watching this. > > > > > > > > > > The first part was the most pleasing hour and 15 minutes of sci-fi I've > watched in a long time. I can't say much without getting into spoiler > territory but in the first hour alone we meet some of Captain Jack's family, > recruit new members, see the government try to keep a lid on the events with > extreme pedjudice and get an eerie message from beyond. Wow! > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
