Mr Worf, as Keith so aptly put it, this is all scarily analogous to the health-care issue. The people who have the power don't want the change, for fear that it'll dent their profit margins.
"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:36:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: comment: The FCC and broadband The thing that bugged me was that they never tried any alternative models. Only one was ever tried. They could have tried the portal method. where there is advertisements on the pages that are used. (they could have also used a subscription method too) I think people would be happy to pay for an access to the net anywhere in the city. But of course that is where the ISPs would have a problem. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@hotmail.com> wrote: Of course, "the business model won't work". The businesses won't make money. Martin (spitting again) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:01:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: comment: The FCC and broadband San Francisco got close to having citywide wifi and it was blocked by comcast in a board of supervisors meeting. (of course) The city decided that they would offer it on their own then said that the business model wouldn't work. So now there are a couple of senior buildings that have it and not much else. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: Here in Atlanta, a company named Clear is all over the place selling true wifi service. They have these little green pavilions setup at movie theatres, in shopping center parking lots, etc. They guarantee wifi service all over the city, for home and laptops, and from what I hear, it's pretty good, pretty widespread, and pretty reliable. The problem? We shouldn't be *paying* for citywide wifi! A few years back, several cities in the US--Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco, Atlanta--either proposed free citywide wifi for the populace, or were actually in the process of implementing it. What happened? The telecoms cried "foul!", said it was unfair competition, and went to work with their lobbyists. As result, state legislatures all over the country started quashing the concept. So now, instead of cash-strapped people being able to access wifi without having to pay for a meal or coffee or something, they have to pay forty bucks a month for the privilege. Just as with health care, until Americans get that making some things available to all people actually *helps* all people, stuff like this will continue. In this country, capitalism and the myth of rugged individualism are considered near-Divine concepts, even as the big companies and those in power screw the populace. Anything else is just socialism. ----- Original Message ----- From: "daikaiju66" <daikaij...@yahoo.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 1:13:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: comment: The FCC and broadband I saw that crap. What they are trying to do is a typical protect the bottom line corporate dodge. And meanwhile the world marches further into the 21st century. BTW Australia is implementing a national broadband network. So that whole size of the landmass b***s*** they are trying to use to redifine broadband is a bunch of hogwash. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@...> wrote: > > > BASTICHES. Screw us over at any turn, they will. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody > hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > To: politicalpe...@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@... > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:57:00 -0700 > Subject: [scifinoir2] comment: The FCC and broadband > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Broadband companies have been petitioning the FCC this week > to change the definition of what can be called "broadband." That means that > if they succeed that they can slow down the speed to 128k and still call it > broadband. It is possible that ATT, Comcast and others are trying to change > the definition so they don't have to spend money bringing broadband to rural > customers. Many of whom don't receive anything or very slow dialup. This way > they can squeak by and pocket the rest of the money that Obama is offering > them. > > > Meanwhile in Japan and Europe they have 80megbits per second speeds. Did you > know that we are ranked at 19th in the world for internet speed? > > Here is a video on it: > http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/theloop/68292/FCC-Broadband-Speed-Limit-Debate.html > > -- > Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > HotmailĀ® is up to 70% faster. 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