Mr Worf, as Keith so aptly put it, this is all scarily analogous to the 
health-care issue. The people who have the power don't want the change, for 
fear that it'll dent their profit margins.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:36:12 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: comment: The FCC and broadband















 




    
                  The thing that bugged me was that they never tried any 
alternative models. Only one was ever tried. They could have tried the portal 
method. where there is advertisements on the pages that are used. (they could 
have also used a subscription method too) I think people would be happy to pay 
for an access to the net anywhere in the city. But of course that is where the 
ISPs would have a problem. 



On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@hotmail.com> 
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Of course, "the business model won't work".

The businesses won't make money.

Martin (spitting again)

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:01:17 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: comment: The FCC and broadband















 




    
                  San Francisco got close to having citywide wifi and it was 
blocked by comcast in a board of supervisors meeting. (of course)  The city 
decided that they would offer it on their own then said that the business model 
wouldn't work. So now there are a couple of senior buildings that have it and 
not much else. 




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Here in Atlanta, a company named Clear is all over the place selling true wifi 
service. They have these little green pavilions setup at movie theatres, in 
shopping center parking lots, etc. They guarantee wifi service all over the 
city, for home and laptops, and from what I hear, it's pretty good, pretty 
widespread, and pretty reliable.



The problem? We shouldn't be *paying* for citywide wifi! A few years back, 
several cities in the US--Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco, Atlanta--either 
proposed free citywide wifi for the populace, or were actually in the process 
of implementing it. What happened? The telecoms cried "foul!", said it was 
unfair competition, and went to work with their lobbyists. As  result, state 
legislatures all over the country started quashing the concept. So now, instead 
of cash-strapped people being able to access wifi without having to pay for a 
meal or coffee or something, they have to pay forty bucks a month for the 
privilege.



Just as with health care, until Americans get that making some things available 
to all people actually *helps* all people, stuff like this will continue. In 
this country, capitalism and the myth of rugged individualism are considered 
near-Divine concepts, even as the big companies and those in power screw the 
populace. Anything else is just socialism.



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From: "daikaiju66" <daikaij...@yahoo.com>
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 1:13:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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I saw that crap. What they are trying to do is a typical protect the bottom 
line corporate dodge. And meanwhile the world marches further into the 21st 
century.



BTW Australia is implementing a national broadband network. So that whole size 
of the landmass b***s*** they are trying to use to redifine broadband is a 
bunch of hogwash.



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> BASTICHES. Screw us over at any turn, they will.

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> broadband. It is possible that ATT, Comcast and others are trying to change 
> the definition so they don't have to spend money bringing broadband to rural 
> customers. Many of whom don't receive anything or very slow dialup. This way 
> they can squeak by and pocket the rest of the money that Obama is offering 
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> know that we are ranked at 19th in the world for internet speed? 

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> http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/theloop/68292/FCC-Broadband-Speed-Limit-Debate.html

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