That's true about WWII. I don't know that Hollywood execs have had a summit 
like that. The general wisdom has been that war movies based on Iraq and Iran 
don't pull in the audiences. Reasons given are that they're hugely divisive, so 
there's no assurance people will pay to see films about them. At the same time, 
the "wars" themselves aren't as engaging in our everyday lives as WWII was. 
Many of us can go about our daily lives and honestly not think of the people 
fighting and dying over there. WWII was universal in its effect on all 
Americans, whether it was those fighting, relatives of soldiers, the women who 
had to work in the factories, the need for people to conserve rubber, gas, etc. 
Iraq and Iran just don't tough our lives in that way. And finally, these "wars" 
aren't as "exciting". They take place in dessert countries with one enemy, and 
the campaigns are more about hide-and-seek, skirmishes, and roadside bombs. 
There's not of the spectacle of a world war, with battles on several fronts, 
wars in trenches, beaches stormed, skies filled with fighters and bombers 
raining death, seas covered with ships, debris, and battles. They're too 
"boring" for Hollywood's tastes. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:51:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well 






This reminded me of something. I read that during WW2 the government had a sit 
down with the heads of the studios in Hollywood about making films that 
encourage the troops and to keep people's minds off of the war. So Hollywood 
made propaganda films, musicals, and other types of films that softened the 
reality of the war. 

Could it be that the same thing may be going on now? The war has been going on 
for years in Iraq and we have only seen 3 films about it. How many films have 
we seen about other issues that are important? 


On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 








You know, we joke about some of the failures, but the period from the late '60s 
to late '70s saw some of the best scifi movies, either at the theatre or made 
for TV. Demon Seed, Colossus: The Forbin Project, Planet of the Apes, Soylent 
Green, 2001: A Space Odyssey. As Worf said, at least back then scifi was often 
dealing with social issues, questions of how will humanity survive our own 
aggressions, etc. 

It's why, although I hated the bigotry shown toward Nigerians in "District 9", 
I loved the realistic take on other types of racism depicted in the film. And, 
perhaps, another reason why I wasn't as taken with the Star Trek film as some, 
as it was more of an action/FX romp designed to bring in mass audiences. 







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryle Lockhart" < dar...@darylelockhart.com > 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:43:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well 







Ha! You'd have been better off with "The Questor Tapes" 

Daryle 

On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:31 PM, George Arterberry < brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com > 
wrote: 









        noir, 




Feeling sort of nostalgic and Netflix (ing) those 70's sci-fi shows of my 
youth. UFO,Space 1999,Logan's Run and several others. ARK was as horrid as a 
remember. 


Stay away 






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