Well, it's still good you're getting out, and I think it's great to involve 
kids in the whole movie going experience. 



It's funny: my dad took me and my brothers to movies a lot when I was a kid, 
and none of them were strictly kiddie fare. Usually it was the latest Godzilla 
or King Kong movie. You haven't lived until you've sat in a car munching 
popcorn, staring at Mothra, Monster Zero, or the Gargantuans on the big screen! 
Some of the movies were funny, such as the Godzilla movies that got more camp 
over time. Some were less so, such as the evil Gargantuan that ate people adn 
then spit out their bloodied clothing. I remembe all this clearly as a kid, and 
it never bothered me. Dad even took us to see "Night of the Living Dead". I was 
four at the time, remember it clearly. It didn't bother me. My oldest brother 
was fourteen, and he was cool too. But the middle boy--ten at the time--had 
nightmares after that and had to be prescribed tranquilizers to sleep for a 
time. But even did, if it was a action, monster, or crime movie , Dad would 
take all of us to see it. 



My parents rarely monitored what I watched on TV. Of course, back then, there 
wasn't a really anything inappropriate in the pre-cable years. The most I can 
remember arent moments of brief nudity here and there, once on Monty Python 
("The Dull Life of a Stockbroker" skit), and once in the play "Steambath" in 
which Valerie Perine dropped her towel, to Bill Bixby's amazement. But other 
than that, nada. All the monster, slasher, and war movies and stuff, i watched 
from infancy on. 



Obviously TV and the regular movies are a lot gorier, explicit, and adult now 
than in times past, but do you think parents nowadays are more cautious even 
with fare like I grew up on? To most parents make sure their tiny tots only 
watch Disney and stuff? (I watched that too, by the way!) 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:36:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To  
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Before I became Matinee mom, I averaged 3 a year, now I do about one or two a 
month.  But just the kids stuff. 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Keith Johnson 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:21 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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Start Making An Awesome Movie 









Dang, I average 3 - 5 movies a month at the theatre! 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:06:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
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I feel ya on that. I am averaging one trip to the theater a year now. Netflix 
and cable are my friends. :) 


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Martin Baxter < truthseeker...@hotmail.com > 
wrote: 




Reading things like that are probably why I'm so reticent to commit to seeing 
movies at the theaters. 




"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 







To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com 
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:38:36 -0700 




Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To 
Start Making An Awesome Movie 

  









When I first saw this I thought it was a parody.  Since most of us complain 
about the lack of story.  The fact that he admits it and feels no shame is a 
amazing 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:16 PM 
To: SciFiNoir2; ggs...@yahoo.com ; cinque3...@verizon.net 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To 
Start Making An Awesome Movie 





Tracey... you mean that Bay once *used* scripts? 8-O 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ; ggs...@yahoo.com ; cinque3...@verizon.net 
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com 
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:52:35 -0700 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start 
Making An Awesome Movie 

  







atch some great Decepticon-on-military-satellite action from Transformers 2 , 
while director Michael Bay explains why you don't need to have a script when 
you start creating cool robot action, in this exclusive commentary clip from 
the Revenge Of The Fallen DVD. 
As you might know, the writers' strike forced Bay to start work on TF2 without 
an actual script — all he had was an outline by writers Roberto Orci and Alex 
Kurtzman. So a lot of the movie's early designs and ideas came about without a 
real script, and when Orci and Kurtzman came back to work after the strike, Bay 
was able to tell them which robots he wanted in the movie. As he says in this 
clip, all of that pre-visualization work and brainstorming with artists 
actually informed the movie's script, once it finally had one. You probably 
have your own ideas about whether that was a good thing. 
Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen comes out on DVD tomorrow, October 20, on 
Blu-Ray and DVD, wherever awesomeness is available. 
Here's what the press release says about the two-disc DVD/Blu-Ray edition: 
Two-Disc Special Edition DVD & Blu-ray: 
The TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen two-disc Special Edition DVD is 
presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 televisions with Dolby Digital 
English 5.1 Surround, French 5.1 Surround and Spanish 5.1 Surround with 
English, French and Spanish subtitles. The Blu-ray will be presented in 1080p 
high definition with English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, French 5.1 Dolby Digital 
and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital with English, English SDH, French, Spanish and 
Brazilian Portuguese subtitles. The disc breakdown is as follows: 
Disc 1: 
• Commentary by Michael Bay, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman 
Disc 2: 
• The Human Factor: Exacting Revenge of the Fallen-This multi-chapter 
documentary chronicles the entire creation of the film and includes interviews 
with the cast and crew: 
o Seeds of Vengeance - Development and Design - After the overwhelming success 
of 2007's Transformers, how do the filmmakers top themselves for the sequel? 
o Domestic Destruction – Production: United States - Michael Bay believes in 
going big: Big action and big explosions. Cast and crew are pushed to the limit 
as they traverse the U.S. from New Mexico to Pennsylvania. 
o Joint Operations – Production: Military - No other filmmaker in the world 
enjoys the kind of military access and cooperation Michael Bay has. Here we see 
just how efficient our armed forces are and the awe and respect shown by the 
cast. 
o Wonders of the World – Production: Middle East - You can't really reproduce 
Egypt anywhere but Egypt so off we go to Giza and Luxor. 
o Start Making Sense - Editing - In order to turn over the massive amount of 
film as quickly as possible to VFX, four editors work tirelessly in a unique 
tag-team approach to shape the film. 
o Under the Gun – Visual Effects – Revenge of the Fallen features the most 
complicated VFX in film history. So complicated in fact that the filmmakers 
were unsure they would make the deadline. The DEVASTATOR VFX alone required 83% 
of ILM's total render farm capacity. 
o Running the Gauntlet – Post-Production and Release - Working seven days a 
week, Michael Bay and company usher the film through sound design, Digital 
Intermediate color-timing and a globe-trotting whirlwind of premieres. 
• A Day with Bay: Tokyo-An intimate and fun all-access journey with Michael Bay 
as he travels to Tokyo, Japan tor the world premiere of the biggest film of the 
year. 
• 25 Years of TRANSFORMERS-Access an all-new featurette celebrating a 
monumental milestone for one of Hasbro's most successful and popular 
franchises. 
• NEST: Transformer Data-Hub-Explore conceptual artwork created by the 
production for 12 of the most popular AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS from the film. 
• Deconstructing Visual Bayhem with Commentary by Pre-Vis Supervisor 
Steve Yamamoto- A series of multi-angle pre-visualization sequences allowing 
viewers to learn how some of the film's most spectacular scenes were created 
with an introduction by Michael Bay. 
• Extended Scenes 
• Music Video: Linkin Park's "New Divide" 
BLU-RAY EXCLUSIVE: 
• The ALLSPARK Experiment-Viewers get their chance to unleash the power of the 
recently recovered ALLSPARK shard on Earth vehicles. Begin by selecting and 
customizing a vehicle with a selection of parts and accessories. Then apply the 
ALLSPARK to this creation and watch what happens. Applying the ALLSPARK to 
certain custom combinations enables four new robot characters with special 
powers. If viewers discover all four, they unlock a fifth vehicle, which 
reveals a top secret message about the future of the TRANSFORMERS movie 
franchise. 
• NEST: Transformer Data-Hub-A database of some of the TRANSFORMERS characters 
that appear in the new film, offering users access to each robot's confidential 
file including: 
o Innovative 3D spin galleries of each robot 
o A timeline for each TRANSFORMERS character charting its origins, back story 
and design evolution from toys to animated series to comics and finally feature 
films 
• Giant Effing Movie – A very personal look at the making of the movie. 
• The Matrix of Marketing-An archive of the film's promotional media including 
trailers, posters and television spots. 

http://io9.com/5385350/michael-bay-explains-why-you-dont-need-a-script-to-start-making-an-awesome-movie
 







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