I hate to argue semantics (no i dont) but thats just about the same thing...
Heroism starts and ends at the act and not the intention. Thats what makes the anti-hero just like the Byronic Hero. Maybe the anit-hero is less likeable but I think they are the same thing. Your talking about someone you can look up to and antiheros are dick's by definition. Han Solo never gave a flying fig about the Rebellion...he was in love and in trouble with the Hutts.....this will convince you to do lots of things not in your regular set of tools. and happy new year scifinoir On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:39 AM, B Smith <daikaij...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > It's pretty close and interchangeable in some cases. The Byronic hero is > flawed but has some redeeming qualities where some anti-heroes are the > protagonists but not heroic in the least. > > A good example for me is Heath Huston from the Fear Agent comic. Hard > dringing, sarcastic as hell, deeply flawed and mentally scarred by a heinous > act he committed in error but is heroic to a fault. > > An anti-hero would be Lance Blastoff from Frank Miller's Tales To Offend. > He a similar character but he's a total bastard. Any heroic acts he performs > usually have a heinous twist for the people he helped. Imagine if Han Solo > would have sold Ben Kenobi and Skywalker to the Imperials and bought > Princess Leia with the proceeds. That's the kind of guy Blastoff is. LOL > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com>, Omari > Confer <clockwork...@...> wrote: > > > > Sounds like any anti-hero..... > > > > Punisher > > > > Man with No Name > > > > Wolverine > > > > etc > > > > c w m > > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Martin Baxter > > <truthseeker...@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mad, bad and dangerous to know?" That exactly how Roger Zelazny > described > > > Corwin of Amber. > > > > > > > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > > > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> > > > From: daikaij...@... > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:52:04 +0000 > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Byronic hero? > > > > > > > > > Capt. Mal Reynolds from Firefly/Serenity > > > > > > Pepper from Tobias Buckell's Ragamuffin series > > > > > > Uther Doul from China Mieville's The Scar > > > > > > Han Solo > > > > > > Riddick > > > > > > Captain Jack Sparrow > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Tracey de Morsella" <tdlists@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Blade? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto: > scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com>] On > > > Behalf Of Mr. Worf > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:38 AM > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Byronic hero? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Byronic hero is an idealized but flawed character < > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_%28arts%29> exemplified in the > life > > > and writings of Lord Byron < > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gordon_Byron,_6th_Baron_Byron> , > > > characterized by his ex-lover Lady Caroline Lamb < > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Caroline_Lamb> as being "mad, bad, > and > > > dangerous to know".[1] < > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byronic_hero#cite_note-0> > > > > > > > > The best examples that I can think of off the bat is Batman, Ironman, > and > > > possibly James Bond. > > > > > > > > Can you think of some others? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! > > > > Mahogany at: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign > up > > > now. <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > READ MY BLOG > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > > STRING THEORY > > http://stringtheory.podbean.com > > > > > -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
