What else is new? That's why I never look to Hollywood or Madison Avenue to 
tell me what beauty is. Another thin blonde (Carol in the Lanter comics is a 
brunette, so i guess the hair will be darkened, since of course there are no 
pretty brunettes right for the role). And to boot, Lively is only 22 years old, 
while Ryan Reynolds is ten years her senior. So of course there are no 
brunette, shapely actresses over 25 in H'Wood who can play Carol, despite the 
character being in her late 20's or early 30s in the comics? Riiight. 

Note that Catherine Tate, who played Donna Noble in "Dr. Who", was born in 
1968!! Like I said, the Brits do stuff most American producers would *never* 
do! 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@yahoo.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:15:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Study Finds British Women Want Curves Again 

  




On this topic: Blake Lively is on the cover of the February 2010 issue of 
Esquire wearing a leather jacket and a sleeveless t-shirt. Lady looks like a 
dude. 

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: 
> 
> Related to the conversation where I'd noted the Brits seem to use more women 
> with "real" shapes (at least in "Dr. Who"). Although, even here i see 
> perceptions have changed. I mean, in what universe is Catherine Zeta-Jones 
> considered curvy? She's beautiful, but I'd call her slim at best. A related 
> article I read was talking about something called the "waist-to-hip" ratio, 
> which supposedly measures a woman's curves. It claimed a WTH of 0.7 indicated 
> a perfect figure. Then, however, the article said that women with that 
> "perfect figure" included Selma Hayek, Jessica Alba, and Audrey Hepburn? Huh? 
> Hayek's got the curves, sho' 'nuff. Alba ain't anything close to what i'd 
> consider curvacious. Fit, but not Coke-bottle curvy. And Hepburn?? My 
> goodness, on this scale, the likes of Pam Grier, Kenya Moore, Nichele 
> Nichols, and other classic voluptuous sisters would be considered overweight! 
> 
> So much of this conversation on beauty frankly ignores whole groups of 
> people. I rarely see African American or Latina women talked about as the 
> standards, unless it's something stupid like last year's fixation on Michele 
> Obama's arms. 
> 
> At any rate, I hope this is a trend reversing, and more women the world over 
> realize that being anorexic-looking isn't a standard of beauty worth worth 
> obtaining. 
> 
> *********************************************************************** 
> 
> 
> British women 'want to be curvy not thin' 
> 
> (AFP) â€" Jul 22, 2009 
> 
> LONDON â€" British women hanker after a curvy hourglass body shape rather 
> than trying to be ultra slim, preferring Kate Winslet to Kate Moss, according 
> to a poll published Wednesday. 
> 
> Sixty percent admitted to being either an "apple" or "pear shape," but 75 
> percent said they wanted a figure like Catherine Zeta-Jones or Marilyn 
> Monroe, against only 10 percent who wanted to squeeze into a slim size 10 
> dress. 
> 
> The findings reflect changing attitudes in Britain -- where obesity is a 
> growing problem -- among women tired of the so-called Size Zero culture long 
> fuelled by advertising and the fashion industry. 
> 
> "The report shows that women's attitudes to slimming over the last 50 years 
> have changed with their figures," said Laura Bryant of the food company which 
> commissioned the poll of 2,000 women. 
> 
> "It seems British women have lost their waists but now they are demanding 
> them back." 
> 
> And she added: "They are more concerned about getting a curvy hourglass shape 
> like their grandmothers instead of being the perfect size 10 which shows a 
> marked shift in attitude from the 80s and 90s, when success and failure when 
> slimming was benchmarked against fitting into certain sized clothes." 
> 
> A top-10 list of female celebrities whose shape inspired women was topped by 
> buxom TV cook Nigella Lawson and actresses Helen Mirren, Judy Dench, and 
> Joanna Lumley. 
> 
> The findings might raise eyebrows in neighbouring France, which has the 
> highest proportion of clinically underweight women in Europe, according to a 
> study published in April. 
> 
> Only half of those French women think they are thin, said the study, noting 
> that in Britain, Spain and Portugal, the number of women who see themselves 
> as seriously skinny easily outstrips the number who actually are. 
> 
> A study last December found that one in three adults in England will be obese 
> by the time London hosts the 2012 Olympics. 
> 
> Between 1993 and 2004 the proportion of obese people rose "significantly", 
> from almost 13.6 percent to 24 percent among men and from almost 17 percent 
> to 24.4 percent among women, according to University College London 
> researchers. 
> 


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