I saw on the news that there were bears living in abandoned homes in Detroit! It happens very quickly. Did anyone see the episode of Life after humans where they visited Chernobyl? The soccer stadium was a forest that was so thick you couldn't see the other side of it. That's only 20 years.
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > And we've had a number of bear sightings in the outer counties of Metro > Atlanta, especially the northern burbs of Cobb and Gwinnett. > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > ------------------------------ > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:33:20 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > > > I think that the things would eventually go back to how they were before > man interfered. Over produced, over bred animals will die off immediately, > the ones that learn to adapt will thrive. If you want a variety of food you > will need a barn, hen house, pigs, cows etc. We have wild turkeys here and I > can tell you it took less than 10 years for them to repopulate here. We have > them all over the place and I'm sure they will be good eating! :) You could > also allow them to eat grass. (wow what a concept! :) ) Dairy cows eat > grass, the ones for beef eat corn concoctions. > > The problem will be large cats and bears. There have been coyote sightings > in San Francisco and foxes near Stanford University. > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:42 PM, B Smith <daikaij...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I'm on the hunting and fishing team too. Although with the huge numbers of > domesticated animals in the U.S. eating wouldn't be a problem for a long > time. The bigger problem would be feeding them on a long term basis and > preserving meat if the power grid is shot. > > The cattle and sheep problem would take care itself in the spring through > fall because taking them off grain and feeding them strictly grass and > forage would take off some of the pressure but even then huge numbers of > them would have to be slaughtered or culled. Hay and winter pasture > cultivation would be a hell of a lot easier than growing corn and soybeans > for animal food. But 85 million cattle and 6 million sheep could cause huge > environmental problems in the long term. > > Hogs on the other hand would be a menace of epic proportions. We'd have to > cull huge numbers of them to keep them from becoming a horde of mammalian > locusts. They are smart resilient and return to the wild very quickly. In > the U.S. alone there are about 66 million hogs and it's no way in hell that > a population of 3 million of so people post-virus could keep them in check. > Look at South Texas or Australia to see how unchecked numbers of hogs can > impact an area. > > Chickens...let's jsut say we'd have huge amounts organic compost to use for > a long time. Numbers would drop after the current genration of broilers were > dealt with but there still would be a huge number of birds that would starve > to death if they aren't euthanised. There are nearly 9 billion chickens > slughtered every year in the U.S.!!! Throw in turkeys, ducks and other > commercially raised poultry and you see the enormity of the problem. > > We'd have to make sure we'd have enough self pollinating non-genetically > modified varieties of plants to make 2nd generation agriculture effective. > All these wonderful GMO crops don't breed true and yields plummet by design. > If you didn't have heirloom seed lines it could be a huge problem in the > future. > > I'll stop now. LOL > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@...> > wrote: > > > > Well you took Buckingham Palace first thing and you love books, so you > know you are on team Scifi! > > > > > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Mr. Worf > > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:21 AM > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > > > > > > > > > > > > I can also shoot a gun, and fish too. :) > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Tracey de Morsella <tdli...@...> wrote: > > > > I want you on my team!!! :-) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of B Smith > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:53 PM > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > > > > we have a pretty good cross section of folks that post. I think we might > be > > lacking a few skillsets but with books and hard work we could make a go. > > > > I'm pretty well versed in agriculture and could handle the basics of > growing > > food, animal based agriculture and have even milked a cow or three. I've > > slaughtered and procesed my own meat so that wouldn't scare me. I know > which > > end of the hammer to swing and could be semi-handy if pressed into > service. > > I also know my way around a lab setting pretty darn well so manufacturing > > biodiesel and the like would be up my alley as well. > > > > Unfortunately I've gotten lazy and haven't used my more physical > skillsets > > for a while. I guess i'd have to come out of retirement. > > > > Any pilots on the list? How about some mechanically inclined people? > Medical > > professionals? Anyone know how to set up an off the grid solar or wind > power > > system? > > > > --- In scifino...@... <mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> , "Tracey de > Morsella" <tdlists@> wrote: > > > > > > I hate "reality" tv, but maybe this would be good. How do you think we > > > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/> > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
