Mr Worf, I think it was through forced evolution and strict discipline through education and a caste-like society. On Gallifrey itself, there were regular human beings, who served the Time Lords in various capacities.
And I can see a compelling case for "going mad by looking into Time Itself". It's been proposed that Time Lords have an innate sense of time that allows them to see the myriad folds of it as it flows, allowing them to know what's supposed to happen and what must happen. Having that in one's head wouldn't make for easy sleep. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > One thing that I never understood was the process of them becoming a time > lord. Why does starring into time make you go mad? > > We still haven't seen the doctor's "daughter" yet. > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> Adrianne, it makes sense for me because the Doctor's almost out of >> regenerations. He figures that, if he's so outside of Time Lord norms, he >> might as well go all the way. He has also said that he has children, >> something Time Lords don't do. All Time Lords are in vitro jobs, cultivated >> to a certain age in what they call Looms, then brought out and educated. >> >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Adrianne Brennan < >> adrianne.bren...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Meh, sorry...I just don't see it as evidence of a relationship, let alone >>> marriage--which is beyond OOC for the Doctor. >>> >>> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ >>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com >>> Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: >>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon >>> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: >>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath >>> The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): >>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Martin Baxter >>> <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Martha loved him too. She just realized early on that it would be >>>> unrequited on his part, and eventually let go of it. River said that, the >>>> last time she saw "her Doctor", before she took the job to go to the >>>> Library, he came by, in his finest, took her to dinner, and then to see the >>>> Singing Something of Something... >>>> >>>> That's requited, in my book. Reciprocated, even. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Adrianne Brennan < >>>> adrianne.bren...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Martha gave him looks too, and nothing happened between them. >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ >>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com >>>>> Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: >>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon >>>>> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: >>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath >>>>> The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): >>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrianne, I disagree because of the way she looked at him when they >>>>>> were together in the Library. At one point, she asked Ten, point blank, >>>>>> if >>>>>> he remembered her, and it nearly broke her heart when he said no. There's >>>>>> ro-mance in there. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Adrianne Brennan < >>>>>> adrianne.bren...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not necessarily, and the jump to the idea that they were married just >>>>>>> because she flirted with him is just that, a jump. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There could be one of several reasons why: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) She conned him out of it. Based on info revealed in last eps this >>>>>>> is looking pretty likely. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) Timey-wimey. He told her so she could tell him and hence trust >>>>>>> her. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And last...and not a good one: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) Deathbed. And once again, based on spoilers I won't reveal...could >>>>>>> be very likely. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ >>>>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com >>>>>>> Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: >>>>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon >>>>>>> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: >>>>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath >>>>>>> The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): >>>>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Martin Baxter < >>>>>>> martinbaxt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will be, Adrianne. Hasn't been said, but the implication, as made in >>>>>>>> the two-part Library ep, is that she knew the Doctor's true name, not >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> one the Time Lords gave him when he came of age, and that he would only >>>>>>>> entrust that intel to someone he cared for intimately. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Adrianne Brennan < >>>>>>>> adrianne.bren...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ugh, she's not his wife. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ >>>>>>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com >>>>>>>>> Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: >>>>>>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon >>>>>>>>> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: >>>>>>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath >>>>>>>>> The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): >>>>>>>>> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Mr. Worf >>>>>>>>> <hellomahog...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I see that in the next episode the woman that is supposed to be >>>>>>>>>> his wife appears. I don't know if she is playing the astronaut or if >>>>>>>>>> she is >>>>>>>>>> a different character. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Martin Baxter < >>>>>>>>>> martinbaxt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And another thought, regarding the lightning. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the Tom baker Era, he had the legendary >>>>>>>>>>> E-Space Trilogy, when the TADRIS went through a Charged Vacuum >>>>>>>>>>> Emboitment >>>>>>>>>>> into E-Space, where the TIme Lords had stuffed the vampires after >>>>>>>>>>> defeating >>>>>>>>>>> them in a war. As the TARDIS flew through it, if I remember >>>>>>>>>>> properly, it was >>>>>>>>>>> struck by lightning. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If memory serves again, the vampires ARE due to put in an >>>>>>>>>>> appearance this season... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Martin Baxter < >>>>>>>>>>> martinbaxt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would make sense. The first ep involved the Crack in the Wall, a >>>>>>>>>>>> rift between dimensions. If it does play out this way, those who >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> doubting will have to double over sideways in apology. One thing >>>>>>>>>>>> we take for >>>>>>>>>>>> granted is that we're seeing the Doctor and Amy in a perfectly >>>>>>>>>>>> linear >>>>>>>>>>>> fashion, from one adventure to the next. The TARDIS is, after all, >>>>>>>>>>>> a time >>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Mr. Worf < >>>>>>>>>>>> hellomahog...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing that I can think of is that he is in a parallel >>>>>>>>>>>>> dimension or something like that due to that weirdness that was >>>>>>>>>>>>> going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>> episode 1. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe he is in a parallel micro-universe? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When they show the tardis flying it is always being struck by >>>>>>>>>>>>> lightning which is a little strange. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Martin Baxter < >>>>>>>>>>>>> martinbaxt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr Worf, I admit that I didn't see all of it. (Long day >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday, and I nodded off while watching.) But what I did see >>>>>>>>>>>>>> had me >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scratching my head, especially the Doctor's staunch assertion >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Amy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should remember the Daleks. Unless this is a set-up for future >>>>>>>>>>>>>> eps in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> season's arc, I have to say it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worst. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ep. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EVER. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Mr. Worf < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hellomahog...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This week's episode is about the Doctor receiving a call from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winston Churchill during the London blitz. The doctor arrives >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and discovers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dialecs working for the British government as defense drones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This episode really does some things that may have some fans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pulling their hair out. Not to mention possible paradoxes in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time line. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I won't mention more until other folks watch it but geez... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mahogany at: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mahogany at: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the >>>>>>>>>>>> bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the >>>>>>>>>>> bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>>>>>>>> Mahogany at: >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the >>>>>>>> bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>>>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell >> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >> >> >> > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
