Cigarettes is slightly different in terms of overall dangers, and it's a lo 
harder to justify ads that seem to focus on the very young in that case. I'm 
divided on the Joe Camel thing, but I do feel we go too far if we think 
companies can't use toys or cutesy characters to hawk their wares. To me, 
that's a bit like the parents who say they can't stop their kids from watching 
certain TV programs. 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@yahoo.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:17:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: McDonald's says no way Ronald will retire 

  




I felt the same way when the government forced R J Reynolds to retire Joe 
Camel. I was wrong. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: 
> 
> My feeling is that we go too far in blaming advertising and marketing for our 
> children's bad habits. Yes, absolutely, McDonald's caters to kids with food 
> that's not healthy if eaten too much. So do the companies behind Twinkies, 
> Snickers, Kool-Aid, Chuck E. Cheese, and countless others. And it makes kids 
> want to eat that stuff. But guess what? Kids eat what their parents tell them 
> to eat! Unless and until ten-year-olds are driving themselves to Mickey D's 
> and gorging on burgers and fries, it's on the parents as to what they eat. 
> Yeah I know: couples work nowadays. It's more rare for there to be a mom 
> staying at home all day cooking healthy three squares from scratch. Fast food 
> is convenient in this new world. But it's still incumbent on parents to say 
> "no". When i was a kid, we had nowhere as many fast food joints as we do 
> today. But frankly, the ones we had in Texas were way better: Dairy Queen was 
> better, there's a great chain called Whataburger out there that's good, and 
> the state was lousy with fantastic mom-and-pop chains that make the best 
> greasy burgers and shakes you'll ever have. And if I'd had my way, I'd have 
> eaten that stuff every day. What did my parents say? "No!" I got such food as 
> a treat, usually when we took road trips to Houston. Or I got fried chicken 
> for Sunday dinner. Other than that, if they didn't want me to eat too many 
> candy bars, cinnamon rolls, cokes, etc., they simply didn't buy it. 
> While freely acknowledging the ever-increasing lure of sophisticated 
> advertising, i just have to shake my head at the thought that parents are 
> helpless to do anything about it when it comes to what their kids eat. 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:12:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] McDonald's says no way Ronald will retire 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> McDonald's says no way Ronald will retire 
> 
> By ASHLEY M. HEHER (AP) â€" 5 hours ago 
> 
> CHICAGO â€" Retire Ronald McDonald? No way. 
> 
> That's the message McDonald's Corp.'s CEO Jim Skinner gave Thursday to the 
> red-haired clown's critics who say the cartoon promotes unhealthy eating and 
> should go the way of the Marlboro Man and Joe Camel. 
> 
> "The answer is no," Skinner told a room full of shareholders who gathered for 
> a meeting at the company's headquarters in the Chicago suburb of Oak Brook, 
> Ill. 
> 
> "He is a force for good," Skinner said, adding that the nearly 50-year-old 
> clown is an ambassador for the McDonald's brand and its Ronald McDonald House 
> Charities. "He communicates effectively with children and families around 
> balanced, active lifestyles. He does not hawk food." 
> 
> Shareholders applauded Skinner. And they unleashed a chorus of boos when 
> representatives from the advocacy group Corporate Accountability 
> International requested the famous icon be shelved â€" for good. 
> 
> "Ronald McDonald is a pied piper drawing youngsters all over the world to 
> food that is high in fat, sodium and calories," said Alfred David Klinger, a 
> retired Chicago physician who volunteers with the organization. "On the 
> surface, Ronald is there to give children enjoyment in all sorts of way with 
> toys, games and food. But Ronald McDonald is dangerous, sending insidious 
> messages to young people." 
> 
> The Boston organization, which calls itself a nonprofit corporate watchdog, 
> has spent the past two months mounting a "Retire Ronald" campaign. 
> 
> So far it has received support from about 10,000 people, said senior 
> organizer Deborah Lapidus. 
> 
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