We need to brainstorm on how to counteract these things. I'm thinking subways. :)
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > Yep... which is why I'm keeping my ideas in my head. > > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Unfortunately, now that they have this, you KNOW they will use it. It will >> start out as something subtle like policing bad neighborhoods, then they >> will add on everyone else. Within 10 years there will be a network of them >> 24/7. >> >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Martin Baxter >> <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Truth there. As I read that, I thought of three different ways it could >>> be done. (And no, I'm not committing them to bytes. 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It needs to land safely to claim >>>>>> the >>>>>> record, but the feat has already demonstrated that the era of low-cost, >>>>>> persistent aerial surveillance has begun. >>>>>> >>>>>> Zephyr is currently flying high above the clouds over the US Army's >>>>>> Yuma Proving Ground in Arizona, on the way to becoming the world's first >>>>>> truly eternal plane. >>>>>> >>>>>> The benefits of such capability are many, with the most obvious being >>>>>> persistent surveillance over months rather than days. Some other logical >>>>>> applications include earth observation and communications relay in >>>>>> support >>>>>> of a range of defence, security and commercial requirements. >>>>>> >>>>>> The current Zephyr aircraft is a genuine breakthrough design, drawing >>>>>> on the latest technology and represents a massive leap forward in >>>>>> engineering excellence incorporating an entirely new wing design. >>>>>> >>>>>> “The team has worked tirelessly over the past few years, making truly >>>>>> significant leaps forward in overall design and construction - and to >>>>>> see it >>>>>> successfully soar into the sky was fantastic,” explained Jon Saltmarsh, >>>>>> Zephyr Programme Director. “By being able to remain over a location for >>>>>> weeks or months at a time, it can usefully deliver a host of practical >>>>>> and >>>>>> more affordable solutions to both civil and military customers.” >>>>>> >>>>>> Launched by hand, the aircraft flies by day on solar power delivered >>>>>> by amorphous silicon solar arrays no thicker than sheets of paper that >>>>>> cover >>>>>> the aircraft's wings. These are also used to recharge the lithium-sulphur >>>>>> batteries, supplied by Sion Power Inc, which are used to power the >>>>>> aircraft >>>>>> by night. Together they provide an extremely high power to weight ratio >>>>>> on a >>>>>> continuous day/night cycle, thereby delivering persistent on-station >>>>>> capabilities. >>>>>> >>>>>> Around 50% larger than the previous Zephyr, technical changes now mean >>>>>> it has a 22.5m wingspan to accommodate more batteries that are combined >>>>>> with >>>>>> a totally new integrated power management system. The entirely new >>>>>> aerodynamic shape and high “T” tail also contribute to reduce drag and >>>>>> improve performance. The payload capacity will meet a number of key >>>>>> surveillance and communication requirements already demonstrated by >>>>>> Zephyr >>>>>> over the past three years. Zephyr’s ultra-lightweight carbon-fibre design >>>>>> also means it weighs in at just over 50Kg. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unlike conventional manned or unmanned aircraft now being operated, >>>>>> Zephyr does not need to return to base at regular intervals for >>>>>> re-fuelling >>>>>> or servicing which also helps minimise the logistical supply chain and >>>>>> extend its operational capability. >>>>>> >>>>>> The QinetiQ Zephyr will be show-cased at the Farnborough International >>>>>> Airshow. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>>>> Mahogany at: >>>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>> Mahogany at: >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >> Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> >> > > > -- > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
