Funny thing is that I should've known about the vast emptiness, having
driven through North Dakota to visit a friend of mine in Minnesota. And no,
I hadn't heard of that tale. Feel free to relate it, at your leisure.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Yea they were pretty cheap at the time they came on the market, but yea you
> would be pretty far out away from everyone and everything. Although they did
> have silos tucked away in a lot of places. Not many people are aware of the
> nukes that were hidden in marin county.
>
> Did I mention the story about the millionaire that tried to take over marin
> to create his own country?
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Martin Baxter 
> <martinbaxt...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I seriously looked into buying one once, when chance brought me to the
>> listing for it. The only reason I didn't bite was because it was in North
>> Dakota. [?][?]
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Web Urbanist <http://weburbanist.com>
>>>  
>>> <http://fusion.google.com/add?source=atgs&feedurl=http://feeds.feedburner.com/WebUrbanist>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Nuclear Family Housing: Life In A Missile Silo 
>>> Home<http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/WebUrbanist/%7E3/g8lG9IvclIk/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email>
>>>
>>> Posted: 25 Jul 2010 10:00 AM PDT
>>>  [ By Steve <http://weburbanist.com/steve> in Abandoned 
>>> Places<http://weburbanist.com/category/abandonments/>,
>>> Architecture & Design <http://weburbanist.com/category/architecture/>, 
>>> History
>>> & Factoids <http://weburbanist.com/category/history/>. ]
>>>
>>>
>>> Formerly spark plugs of the cold war, dozens of decades-old,
>>> decommissioned underground nuclear missile silos are slowly slipping into 
>>> disrepair
>>> and 
>>> decay<http://weburbanist.com/2008/07/27/abandoned-buildings-property-and-other-places/2/>.
>>> Not all of these relics are destined for the ash heap of history, however, a
>>> precious few are taking on new life as post-apocalyptic family homes –
>>> without the apocalypse. The best thing about living in a refurbished missile
>>> silo? Telling your kids, *“You can’t fight in here, this is the war
>>> room!”*
>>>
>>> Home, Home On The Firing Range
>>>
>>> (images via: UP-HAA <http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/tag/home-silo/>,
>>> Arms Control 
>>> Wonk<http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/863/20th-century-castles>and 
>>> Pyjamas
>>> Media<http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/07/23/going-underground/>
>>> )
>>>
>>> Why would anyone want to live in an old missile 
>>> silo<http://gearcrave.com/2008-03-23/how-to-buy-your-own-missile-silo/>?
>>> Let’s look at the positives, starting with the best construction work
>>> government money can buy. Then there’s the feeling of security that comes
>>> with living in a structure built to withstand tornadoes, hailstorms,
>>> wildfires and the odd Soviet pre-emptive nuclear strike. Home handyman types
>>> will find little to do besides changing light bulbs.
>>> A Real Fixer-Upper?
>>>
>>> (images via: Think Or 
>>> Thwim<http://thinkorthwim.com/2007/10/08/for-sale-by-owner-titan-missile-silo/>and
>>>  Artificial
>>> Owl<http://www.artificialowl.net/2008/10/abandoned-us-anti-ballistic-missile.html>
>>> )
>>>
>>> There are negatives, of course, that go beyond the lack of skylights,
>>> picture windows and kidney-shaped swimming pools. Though they were built to
>>> last, missile 
>>> silos<http://dornob.com/ultimate-underground-home-converted-nuclear-missile-silo/>and
>>>  their associated infrastructure did require maintenance of the
>>> preventive variety. The oddly beautiful installation above is the Stanley R.
>>> Mickelsen Safeguard 
>>> complex<http://www.artificialowl.net/2008/10/abandoned-us-anti-ballistic-missile.html>in
>>>  Nekoma, North Dakota: the only operational anti-ballistic missile (ABM)
>>> base ever completed and dating from the late 1960s. ABMs were designed to
>>> protect ICBM sites from attack by enemy missiles, in other words protecting
>>> our protectors.
>>>
>>> (images via: English 
>>> Russia<http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2008/12/26/abandoned-missile-launch-site/>,
>>> Getty 
>>> Images<http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/83401677/Photonica?language=en-US&location=CAN>and
>>>  Telstar
>>> Logistics<http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2008/11/a-nike-missile-base-where-the-cold-war-never-ended.html>
>>> )
>>>
>>> A missile 
>>> base<http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2008/11/a-nike-missile-base-where-the-cold-war-never-ended.html>that
>>>  was completely neglected for years may have a number of daunting issues
>>> any new owner must deal with before moving in such as flooding, mold and
>>> structural settling. Got a sticky set of blast doors? That’ll require more
>>> than just a few shots of WD40.
>>> Blasts From The Past
>>>
>>> (images via: Gypsy Journal <http://www.gypsyjournal.net/titan.htm> and
>>> Wikimedia<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Minuteman_II_in_silo_1980.jpg>
>>> )
>>>
>>> Most nuclear missile sites comprise much more than the actual missile
>>> silo. Underground control complexes attached to the silo by tunnels provided
>>> personnel with long-term living facilities (kitchens, bathrooms etc.) and
>>> these are the portions most often chosen for home conversion. Even so, life
>>> at an updated missile base isn’t a bowl of cherries – and there are usually
>>> few stores or supermarkets nearby from which to procure said cherries.
>>>
>>> (image via: Expedition 
>>> Portal<http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25705>
>>> )
>>>
>>> For obvious reasons, nuclear missile bases were located in places with
>>> sparse population and negligible infrastructure. The image above shows an
>>> old Titan -1 Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) launching base
>>> located east of Denver, Colorado. Electrical power, gas & water, waste
>>> disposal and the lack of friendly (or often ANY) neighbors are serious
>>> considerations for anyone contemplating living in a renovated silo.
>>> My Home Is My Subterra Castle
>>>
>>> (images via: 
>>> Jiaju<http://jiaju.xooob.com/fgsj/200912/395945_1037633.html>and Trip
>>> Advisor<http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g38671-d1010044-Reviews-Subterra_Castle-Dover_Kansas.html>
>>> )
>>>
>>> When luck is on their side, homeowners can acquire a decommissioned
>>> missile silo in good repair at a decent price. Take the Subterra 
>>> Castle<http://www.subterracastle.com/index.html>in Dover, Kansas. Edward 
>>> and Dianna Peden originally purchased the former
>>> Atlas E ICBM 
>>> site<http://webecoist.com/2010/01/20/going-green-underground-16-subterranean-eco-buildings/3-subterra-underground-missile-silo-house/>for
>>>  around $40,000 back in the 1980s – presumably at the bottom of the
>>> market.
>>>
>>> (images via: Roadside America<http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/16730>and
>>> Subterra <http://www.subterracastle.com/photos.htm>)
>>>
>>> The Pedens proceeded to renovate & revamp the 34-acre site to the point
>>> that organized tours now visit their home. With 6,500 sq ft of underground
>>> living space, an 11,000 sq ft underground shop/garage, his & hers
>>> side-by-side toilets and a hot tub, the Cold War is just a fading memory.
>>>
>>> *Check out this video that introduces the Pedens and their 
>>> upcycled<http://weburbanist.com/upcycle>silo home:
>>> *
>>>
>>> Weird US Underground Missile Silo Home, via 
>>> WeirdUSTV<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_liNYkZn_M>
>>> Cold War, Hot Properties
>>>
>>> (images via: MissileBases.com <http://www.missilebases.com/>,
>>> RedGypsy1969 <http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamayer/2011256219/> and Roadside
>>> America <http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/16730>)
>>>
>>> The Pedens love living in their renovated missile silo so much, they’ve
>>> gone into business finding and selling similar properties. The couple set up
>>> a real estate company named 20th Century 
>>> Castles<http://www.missilebases.com/>and run it from their home in a 
>>> decommissioned Atlas E missile site.
>>> *“This has been the best investment of our lifetime, we love our home,”*say 
>>> the happy silo-dwellers.
>>> *“We sold our first missile site in 1995 and as of January 2010, we have
>>> sold 49 of these properties.”*
>>>
>>> (images via: MissileBases.com<http://www.missilebases.com/developedsites>
>>> )
>>>
>>> One problem the Pedens face is that prime sites are becoming difficult to
>>> find. Many of the newer bases built in the early 1960s are being destroyed
>>> by the government due to international treaty obligations while the older
>>> sites dating back to the 1950s are considered by long-time owners to be
>>> “hard assets” that are steadily rising in value.
>>> Underground Titanic
>>>
>>> (images via: Think Or 
>>> Thwim<http://thinkorthwim.com/index.php?tag=real-estate>,
>>> Wikimedia <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Titan2_color_silo.jpg>and
>>> O’Reilly/MacDevCenter <http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/2002/01/>)
>>>
>>> Some of the largest missile silo bases were those constructed to house
>>> and protect Titan II ICBMs. The base depicted above features three missile
>>> silos and associated command & control facilities that take up a total of
>>> 47,000 sq ft spread over (under, actually) 57 acres. One of these bases
>>> recently was offered up for 
>>> auction<http://thinkorthwim.com/index.php?tag=real-estate>at eBay for a 
>>> cool $1.5 million.
>>> From Launch Pad To Bachelor Pad
>>>
>>> (images via: Oddity 
>>> Central<http://www.odditycentral.com/pics/living-in-a-missile-silo.html>and
>>> Wired.com <http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2009/10/missile-base-2/all/1>)
>>>
>>> America’s nuclear deterrent evolved over time, as did the bases built to
>>> store and – if need be – launch the ICBMs at the evildoers. This gives
>>> homebuyers some leeway in terms of size: both of their investment and their,
>>> er, new digs. Bruce 
>>> Townsley<http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2009/10/missile-base-2/all/1>decided 
>>> to go the more modest route after seeing Ed Peden discuss his
>>> missile silo home with Johnny Carson on The Tonight Show.
>>>
>>> (images via: Oddity 
>>> Central<http://www.odditycentral.com/pics/living-in-a-missile-silo.html>
>>> )
>>>
>>> In 1997, Townsley plopped down $99,000 for an Atlas F missile base near
>>> Abilene, Texas. While Atlas E sites like the one the Pedens converted were
>>> built to store multiple missiles, Atlas F sites stocked just one, along with
>>> about 2,200 sq ft of living space. By the time Townsley was finished his
>>> renovations, his new home boasted just 1,000 sq ft of space but is bright,
>>> white & cozy.
>>> Down The Hatch!
>>>
>>> (images via: Silohome <http://www.silohome.com/>)
>>>
>>> Got a hankering for the missile silo lifestyle but can’t be troubled to
>>> whip an old base into shape? Silohome <http://www.silohome.com/> knows
>>> what you’re thinking – they’ve done most (if not all) of the whipping so you
>>> don’t have to. You DO, however, have to plunk down $2.3 million but what you
>>> get is a true turn-key special… not THAT turn-key! Whew, that was a close
>>> one, and so is Silohome’s “model home”, as it were: just a few miles from
>>> Lake Placid, NY. Who knew an Atlas ICBM missile base was in, er, shooting
>>> distance of the 1980 Winter Olympics?
>>>
>>> (images via: Silohome <http://www.silohome.com/> and Moviemuse 
>>> Reviews<http://moviemusereviews.com/2009/11/new-on-blu-ray-north-by-northwest-1959-4-55-stars/>
>>> )
>>>
>>> In any case, Silohome has domesticated the former base inside and out,
>>> below ground and above. It’s even got a small private airstrip in case you
>>> want to invite like-minded fellow travelers over for some pinocle or fly out
>>> rolls of microfilm hidden inside pre-Columbian art ala Hitchcock’s North
>>> By Northwest <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053125/>.
>>> Sleeping With The Enemy
>>>
>>> (images via: 
>>> WebUrbanist<http://weburbanist.com/2008/01/27/7-abandoned-wonders-of-the-former-soviet-union-from-submarine-stations-to-unfinished-structures/>,
>>> Martin 
>>> rolle<http://www.flickr.com/photos/martintrolle/sets/72157594469877183/>and
>>> Truthdig<http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/20070319_the_nightmare_scenario/>
>>> )
>>>
>>> Perhaps the Pedens and others like them will have to set their sites
>>> beyond the border… catch my drift? You guessed it, Mother Russia! The
>>> successor state to the former Evil Empire has just as many nuclear
>>> missile 
>>> bases<http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/20070319_the_nightmare_scenario/>as 
>>> the USA (more or less) and a series of treaties dating back to the
>>> mid-1980s has resulted in many of them being abandoned to various degrees.
>>> Better act fast, potential homeowners, lest we fall prey to a missile silo
>>> home gap!
>>>
>>> (image via: WorldChanging<http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/007682.html>
>>> )
>>>
>>> You may be wondering just why the military, after going to great expense
>>> to build a huge network of missile silos, now sees them as obsolete? Blame
>>> technology – the development of inertial guidance systems in the 1960s
>>> turned the bases into sitting ducks. Much better to have mobile ducks, such
>>> as submarines. Maybe someday, somebody will be selling obsolete nuclear subs
>>> as high-tech <http://weburbanist.com/technology> houseboats… and we
>>> wonder what sort of deterrent will replace them?
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>>
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