I'll have to give the second one a look because I felt the same way as you do 
about the first. It was interesting but not very engaging.

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" <belsidus2...@...> wrote:
>
> (I didn't care for this one at all.
> 
> The second in the series, Shadow Valley, though I found flawed, was readable 
> and even enjoyable on a certain level.
> 
> I think Steve had a tough job here--how to write a novel dealing with pre 
> historic hunter gatherers--they got no agriculture, no towns or cities or 
> even farms, no permanent settlements, no written language, no metallurgy--
> 
> You got a bunch of characters in other words, whose main activity is getting 
> enough to eat--not likely they engaged in much philosophy, though no doubt 
> they had a culture
> 
> Such as that of Kalahari bushmen, Amazonian rain forest dwellers or people in 
> New Guinea.
> 
> I was brought to mind of "The Song of Hiawatha" which dealt with people at 
> the same level of development.
> 
> I would read another book about the Ibandi--
> 
> 
> --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <ravenadal@> wrote:
> >
> > Great Sky Woman by Steven Barnes One World/Ballantine Books, July 2006 
> > $24.95, ISBN
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  0-345-45900-8 
> > 
> > The latest offering from speculative fiction
> >  writer Steven Barnes is set in prehistoric Africa and is the first of two 
> > novels about the Ibandi, a tribe of hunter-gatherers. In this first 
> > installment, the Ibandi live in the plains near Mount Kilimanjaro. Frog 
> > Hopping, a boy, longs to become a great hunter. T'Cori, an abandoned girl, 
> > is apprentice to the tribe's medicine woman. After centuries of peaceful 
> > coexistence with other groups, the Ibandi face possible annihilation at the 
> > hands of the Herculean, genocidal Mk*tk. The survival of the tribe 
> > ultimately depends on Frog and T'Cori. 
> > 
> > Great Sky Woman may have particular resonance for African American readers, 
> > helping us imagine the history (and prehistory) we lost when we were 
> > dragged to this land. But the novel doesn't just recall far-gone epochs. 
> > Given the genocide that has bloodied Africa in recent years, Great Sky 
> > Woman also speaks to our time. 
> > 
> > No matter how much the world inside a fantasy or science fiction novel 
> > differs from our own, it is always similar in fundamental ways. After all, 
> > what writers of such books know about humanity and life, they know from 
> > riving in this world. 
> > 
> > While Barnes manages his narrative rather well on a macro level, there are 
> > flaws at the micro level. Too often, he tells us what a character is 
> > feeling, rather than showing us: "All night and day ... she had felt her 
> > anxiety threaten to swirl out of control." Dangling modifiers and cliches 
> > trouble some of the sentences. There's also an inconsistency--at one point, 
> > Barnes forgets that Frog's stepfather has only one eye: "There was some 
> > hidden fire in Snake's eyes." 
> > 
> > Despite these glitches, Great Sky Woman will not lose Barnes any fans. It 
> > will probably gain him some. 
> > 
> > --Reviewed by Dana Crum
> >
>


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