Hi all - Re: lists. New to this kind of coordination (surprise!) so I'm open to any suggestions. Right now [email protected] is a google group that also sends to [email protected]
It sounds like it would be good if assembla also mailed to the li...@scratchlist. I'll see about setting that up. I filed a bug against the current VM package, also requesting upgrade. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squeak-vm/+bug/517663 ..after asking if the updated version was likely to make it into Lucid here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squeak-vm/+question/99934 Haven't heard anything conclusive. Any help on how to navigate this world would be greatly appreciated - I'd thought such a question would constitute contacting the vm maintainer, but perhaps I'm going about it the wrong way. At this point I think we're just going to try to submit the package as it is (with bundled VM), and hope the MOTU's will allow it. The deadline is next Friday, so I want to get something in even if we have to try and change it down the road, which I hope won't be too hard. re: Adding Scratchplugin to Squeak. John and I spoke about this. It's fine to include that code with the VM under any license you like. But it seems like the Scratch package should include / use its own version of the plugin in case we have to update it / make changes that follow updates / fixes / new versions of Scratch. So since it's only used just for Scratch, it doesn't seem like getting into the squeak package is a high priority - but there are no objections to it on our end. -Amos On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Derek O'Connell <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Bert, > > thanks for the attachments. > > > >GStreamer is not really meant to be used for generated sound. It's more of > a media decoding framework. > > True but it was a such a common request that a year ago the GSt developers > finally promoted the "App Library" containing the appsrc/appsink plugins to > the "base" set which mean they then became officially supported. I think it > was around the second half of 2009 by the time they made it into Ubuntu as > standard and could therefore be relied upon by application developers. > Here's some links, the first being the request to move them into base: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564421 > > http://www.gstreamer.net/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gst-plugins-base-libs/html/gstreamer-app.html > > http://www.gstreamer.net/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gst-plugins-base-libs/html/gst-plugins-base-libs-appsrc.html > > http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gst-plugins-base-libs/html/gst-plugins-base-libs-appsink.html > > -D > > > > > On 11/02/2010 08:23, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > On 10.02.2010, at 22:39, Derek O'Connell wrote: > > > I know very little about the Debian packaging & > distribution process let alone RPM, though I guess they are two separate > processes and the RPM package has it's own maintainer/s? > > > Each distribution has their own package maintainers, yes. In general it's > not needed (and effectively impossible) for an open-source project to even > know all the ways your software gets packaged. > > For example, I try to keep track of in which distros Squeak and Etoys pops > up, though it generally isn't expected of an "upstream" project to even get > involved directly with bugs found in a particular packaging: > http://wiki.squeakland.org/display/sq/Bug+Tracking > > As for DBus, I made a changeset that makes it work in current Scratch. > It's part of my sugarization work. What would you need it for though? > > > > In the first instance receiving and reacting sensibly to critical system > messages, eg, "battery-low". > > > Ah, makes sense. > > > > Could otherwise be useful in the future for > greater platform integration and for communicating with other > applications. It seems to be almost standard now to send hw sensor data > over DBus... instant thought... does the XO send a msg when the screen > is folded back into tablet mode? > > > Likely, but I'm not sure. > > > > > **** Btw, I'm just checking mail archives and getting confused. Did > anyone see my reply to Bert's email from 2nd Feb that ended with... > > > > Nice! Do you possibly have changesets for this to migrate it to a > > > current image? > > > Also, I just noticed that [email protected] is an alias for the > > > launchpad list? Had me confused ... > > ...I replied to [email protected] with the change-sets attached but > cannot seem to locate the post in mail archives. Please let me know if not. > > > I got them, though I didn't base mine on it since I had already started > porting and you said it your's wasn't finished yet. > > > > I will repost after this email just to be sure. The attachments may be > redundant if Bert has already done the migration but I don't like the fact > that it appears I have not bothered replying. Btw, Bert, where can I get your > version? > > > Not published yet, attaching. I wouldn't consider this "stable" yet. In > fact, when I just tried, it didn't work anymore :/ > > Anyway, it's two changesets, one to add compatibility methods and one for the > actual DBus bindings. > > > > @Amos: I guess we are now all using [email protected] ? > > > What's the difference to [email protected] ? > > > > You mentioned previously about utilising mainstream VM, is there any > progress or plan for that? Is the Scratch plug-in going to be pushed > upstream? > > > > You need to communicate with the VM maintainers about that. Also read this > thread: > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-September/003182.html > > I realise your comment was probably aimed at Amos but I was simply > looking for a date when it might happen. Is the licence issue resolved? > > > I don't think I ever heard back from John on the matter. It seemed like a > good idea but there was not much interest except mine, so I have not been > pushing the issue. > > - Bert - > > > > This body part will be downloaded on demand. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~scratch > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~scratch > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- _____ Amos
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