On 24.02.2010, at 14:16, John Maloney wrote: > > Hi, guys. > > Looking at Claudia's screenshots, it looks like the download did not complete > normally. When I downloaded a project, I saw the project name in the journal. > One possible problem: you have to log into the website in order to download a > project. I didn't do that the first time and it did not work, but the error I > got from the browser was misleading, so it took me a while to realize that I > needed to log in. > > Claudia, if logging in doesn't help, I can help you get the debug info that > Bert wants, but I'll need to do that on your XO unless I can reproduce the > problem on one of mine. > > -- John
Ah, I didn't realize Claudia was not familiar with Squeak. So here is a bit more detail: - Shift-click Scratch's file menu to get its extended version, click "exit user mode" - click on the desktop, "open...", "transcript" - in the Transcript window, type "logDebug:", press Alt-m - in the logDebug: method, replace "^self" with "Transcript show: aString; cr", press Alt-s to save - now try to import a costume - the Transcript should fill with a lot of debug messages - in the Transcript press Alt-a (select all) then Alt-c (copy) - now it's in the Sugar clipboard - switch to browse activity and paste into email, or save to Journal etc. - Bert - > > On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:16 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >> Hi Claudia, >> >> thanks for testing! It's great that it's not working for you so we have a >> test case ;) >> >> To assist in debugging, could you change DBus>>logDebug: to "Transcript >> show: aString; cr" and send me the Transcript contents after you tried to >> import a costume or project? Thanks! >> >> All: the steps to upgrade to my version under Sugar in the Terminal activity >> are >> cd Activities/Scratch.activity >> wget http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/scratch/ScratchXO-bf-Feb23.zip >> mv ScratchXO.image ScratchXO.image.bak >> unzip ScratchXO-bf-Feb23.zip >> Then launch Scratch as usual. >> >> - Bert - >> >> On 24.02.2010, at 04:25, Claudia Urrea wrote: >>> >>> Hi Bert, >>> >>> I am very excited about the progress. I run Scratch on my XO1.0 (802) >>> and this is what I found: >>> - Import projects >>> I downloaded a project from the Scratch website, but I can't import >>> it using the Journal button. If I use the simple directory viewer, I see >>> a list of download entries, but none of them open, if I bring the Sugar >>> widget (by holding down shift key), I click on the file, but it doesn't >>> open. I included a couple of screet shoots. >>> >>> - Import costumes >>> If I use the simple directory view, it works, but if I use the Sugar >>> widget (by holding down shift key), the images don't get imported. >>> I even tried creating a new sprite and again, if I select one of the >>> images using the simple directory view it works, but not from the >>> Sugar widget. >>> >>> I like the hidden feature, but one of the reasons I propose the >>> Sugar widget is that you can get access to the content of the USB >>> drives, without having to do to "/media/XXXX/" >>> >>> - Import images for background >>> I get the same behavior.. the background images get imported if >>> I use the simple directort view, but not the Sugar widget >>> >>> - I didn't test sound. >>> >>> Thanks again for your work. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Claudia >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Maloney" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Bert Freudenberg" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "linux" <[email protected]>; "Claudia Urrea" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:29 PM >>> Subject: Re: Sugarizing Scratch >>> >>> >>>> Hi, Bert. >>>> >>>> Got it installed using your pre-build image (thanks for making that!). So >>>> far I've tested: >>>> >>>> 1. download a project from the Scratch website and open it using the >>>> Journal button. Yay! This is a biggie! >>>> 2. Imported a photo from the Journal as a costume. Another biggie! >>>> >>>> I haven't yet tested importing lists, backgrounds, and sounds from the >>>> Journal. I'll let you know. But these first two tests are very promising. >>>> >>>> The Sugar "object chooser" is actually what I had originally imagined you >>>> would implement. But I much prefer the way you did it. I would be okay >>>> with leaving it in as a hidden feature. As you say, it could be desirable >>>> as a way to search among thousands of entries. >>>> >>>> It took a while to generate thumbnails the first time I imported an image, >>>> even though there were very few images in my Journal (and only one >>>> photo). It's great that you are caching the thumbnails file so it is fast >>>> the next time. The Sugar object chooser might be a faster way to import >>>> an image on a computer with lots of images in the Journal, especially if >>>> the user has never imported an image from Scratch so there no thumbnails >>>> file. I could imagine that thumbnail generation might take hours if the >>>> journal were full of photos. >>>> >>>> I haven't used an XO for a while. I had forgotten how slow the XO feels >>>> when one is used to a 2 gigaherz dual core processor. :-) >>>> >>>> This is looking very promising! >>>> >>>> -- John >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi John, all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm working on making the Sugar Journal accessible from Scratch. The plan >>>>> is to do so with only minimal changes in the UI. >>>>> >>>>> I have a first implementation, and would like to get feedback. Attached >>>>> is a version that can import Scratch projects, Sprite costumes, Stage >>>>> backgrounds, and Lists from the Sugar Journal. Importing Sounds should >>>>> work too but I have not tested that yet. >>>>> >>>>> There is no saving / exporting / writing to the Journal yet. >>>>> >>>>> The UI by default shows the Journal contents as if it was a simple >>>>> directory. You just click the new Journal button and it lists all the >>>>> matching entries for the current media type. >>>>> >>>>> Alternatively it can use Sugar's "object chooser". To try that, hold down >>>>> Shift while clicking the Journal button (the default is governed by >>>>> useJournalUI pref). If there were thousands of entries in the Journal >>>>> this might be preferable. But I'm still undecided on this. >>>>> >>>>> To install, get a pristine ScratchSource1.4 image and file in the >>>>> changesets in this order: >>>>> - Compatibility >>>>> - DBus >>>>> - SugarScratch >>>>> You MUST evaluate "DBus startUp: true" once, and after each start of the >>>>> image (if saved as a user image that happens automatically on each >>>>> start). >>>>> >>>>> Obviously you need to run this under Sugar. >>>>> >>>>> For convenience, here is a drop-in replacement for the image in the >>>>> current Scratch activity: >>>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/scratch/ScratchXO-bf-Feb23.zip >>>>> >>>>> Again, feedback appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> - Bert - >>>>> >>>>> <SugarScratch-bf-Feb23.zip> >>>> >>> <Screenshot_1_2_3.png><Screenshot_1_2_3_4.png> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~scratch Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~scratch More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
