I use  cvs and I do not have these crash problems but I notice mention of 
window managers and gnome and I would like to share my experience with the 
upgrades to gnome on the January 15 2004 date on www.suse.com. These  went 
smoothly until gcof and gconf2 failed and my graphics failed to load and since 
the manager remembered the prior setting I kept getting gnome stopping cold. i 
had to reconstruct the graphics by unloading 100 packages through YAST in text 
mode. Then I had to reconstruct the tool bar in kde. I have never liked gnome 
and actually had the SAME problem six months ago on another box for the same 
reason. Moral: do not trust any qt upgrades except those from SuSE and do not 
use any gnome upgrades at all.
bart at solozone.com


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