On Thursday 06 April 2006 12:55, Louis Desjardins wrote: > Pierre-Luc Auclair a ?crit : > > It would rather have to go in a paragraph tab, we already lack settings > > that are only available via styles [that should go there]. > > I agree this confuses everybody! > Columns never come without a gutter. So 2 fields. Then we have the text > inset... Rethinking it over doesn't convince me this solution will give > the desired results. There will not be less confusion, imo.
Although that's practically true, columns can come without gutter. ;) I don't really see the confusion as to multiple fields, to me this is necessary. > Maybe you'll agree the name of the tab itself brings the first > confusion. How could "Shape" makes think about a text frame or an image > frame? Could it be dynamically replaced by "Text Frame" when on a text > frame, and "Image frame" when clicking on an image frame? Or simply > "Frame" instead of "Shape" ? I believe that it is semantically incorrect [to put it in Shape]. > Also, the way Scribus works, and correct me if I'm wrong, the paragraph > style cannot accomodate columns or can it? My understanding is that > columns are "text frame" dependant and not "paragraph" or "text" > dependant. And how could we live with both worlds? What would take over > and in what circumstances? I believe that is correct. To me columns are a paragraph style and not frame settings (in a semantic point of view). It should be in paragraph, along with indentation and stuff like that. Complex paragraph behavior for semi-automatic type-setting, like I talked about with Avox and others on IRC a few weeks ago, could probably go in paragraph styles too, but behavior might want to and *should* probably be separated into another kind of style, Behavior style or something like that. > But I would gladly welcome a "frame" style (idea already on the bug > tracker). To me a frame style is not the way to go (although I can definitely see the use for background color, outline color and stuff like that). To me the frame is a totally dissociated (semantically, again) element from text or paragraph. Also, this option lacks flexibility. For example you have 2 frame styles (only graphically) and 2 paragraphs styles, which can be mixed. If column formatting were into a frame style, you would need actually 4 frame styles to do the same. Pierre-Luc
