On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 03:02:58 -0500 William Bader <williambader at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > From: christoph-schaefer at gmx.de > > To: scribus at lists.scribus.net > > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 07:14:24 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [scribus] add unstable scribus > > to fedora repository > > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 08. Dezember 2015 um > > > 16:43 Uhr Von: "Gregory Pittman" > > > <gpittman at iglou.com> An: "Scribus User > > > Mailing List" <scribus at lists.scribus.net> > > > Betreff: Re: [scribus] add unstable scribus > > > to fedora repository > > > > > > On 12/08/2015 10:11 AM, > > > stefan-husmann at t-online.de wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original-Nachricht----- > > > >> Betreff: [scribus] add unstable scribus > > > >> to fedora repository Datum: > > > >> 2015-12-08T13:02:54+0100 Von: "Muhamad > > > >> Moghadam" <msm1365 at gmail.com> An: > > > >> "scribus at lists.scribus.net" > > > >> <scribus at lists.scribus.net> > > > > > > > >> below address is scribus repository for > > > >> fedora : > > > > > > > >> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/mrdocs/Fedora_23/ > > > > > > > >> but is only stable version in repo while > > > >> stable version is in official fedora > > > >> repo. we need to be unstable scribus > > > >> version in repository. > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I might be wrong, but my guess would be > > > > that the scribus maintainers and > > > > developers have no influence on Fedora's > > > > decisions what will be taken into a > > > > repository and what not. So you might ask > > > > them. > > > > > > > > On Arch Linux only stable versions enter > > > > official repositories. I think Fedora has > > > > similar politics. > > > > > > > > > > It's actually worse than that. Because our > > > online docs that come with Scribus have a > > > license that Fedora folks don't like, they > > > do not want to have it in their repository. > > > Of course, they might put it in one of the > > > rpmfusion repos, but they don't seem to > > > want to do that either. Consequently, the > > > "current" Scribus in Fedora is 1.4.4 > > > > I don't buy this rationale. The documentation > > licence hasn't changed one bit between 1.4.4 > > and 1.4.6 (or 1.5.x, for that matter). There > > has to be another reason for their decision. > > > > Christoph > > > RedHat Enterprise Linux 7 has Scribus 1.4.4 > with a patch that removes the documentation. > The spec file is scribus-1.4.4-5.el7.spec which > applies a patch called > scribus-1.4.2-nonfree.patch RHEL 6 has Scribus > 1.4.3 as scribus-1.4.3-2.el6.x86_64 with a > similar patch, and when you click on Help -> > Scribus Manual, instead of the manual, you get > the text: "Sorry, the manual is not installed > because it is not freely distributable and thus > can't be included in Fedora! Please see: > http://docs.scribus.net for updated > documentation http://www.scribus.net for > downloads" Fedora 23 has Scribus 1.4.5. (I > haven't installed it because I am using Scribus > 1.5 built from source, but I suppose that it > has the same patch.) The Scribus web site still > lists 1.4.5 as the stable branch > http://www.scribus.net/downloads/stable-branch/ > I suspect that RedHat and other distributions > are going to prefer 1.4 as long as the Scribus > web site says that 1.4 is the stable release > and that 1.5 is still unstable. I don't think > that you can fault distribution maintainers > from avoiding unstable releases. Fedora 23 > (including rpmfusion) provides nearly 50,000 > packages. They are not going to inflict > unnecessary punishment on themselves by > including large numbers of unstable releases. > Is any 1.5 release going to be marked as > stable, or will the first post-1.4 stable > release be 1.6? Regards, William Bader, > Director of Research and Development at SCS, > http://www.newspapersystems.com > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.scribus.net/pipermail/scribus/attachments/20151209/dcf6605a/attachment.html> > ___ Scribus Mailing List: > scribus at lists.scribus.net Edit your options or > unsubscribe: > http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus > See also: http://wiki.scribus.net > http://forums.scribus.net > The version 1.5.0 is effectively a released version. It is available for download without visiting the svn file. I think the Scribus team would be doing users a service if they simply marked 1.5.0 as "stable" which it is, or at least as stable as the "stable" 1.4.3 version. This would be a break from tradition I know. But it would help those who insist in downloading Scribus from their OS depository. I run 1.5.0 and 1.5.1 with no current problems from either. On another tack, why is some of the documentation of Scribus not under a GPL license? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Book layout, typesetting and Indexing Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html
