Hi Craig, I downgraded Scribus from 1.5.8 back to 1.5.7 and the problem is still there. So it must be a system library. And yes, harfbuzz also had been updated from 3.1.2 to 3.2.0 when I updated Scribus to 1.5.8. So I guess it must be a harfbuzz issue. It's not that easy to downgrade harfbuzz here so I simply tried my LinuxMint VirtualBox where they have an older harfbuzz. The problematic renders correct.
Problem: Scribus 1.5.7 and 1.5.8 with harfbuzz 3.2.0 NO problem: Scribus 1.5.5 with harfbuzz 2.6.4 No other combination tested yet. What versions that work/don't work do you have installed? In my case I think it has to do with justified text, word tracking (min 90/norm 100) and glyph extension (min 92/max 103). Liberation Serif font. I'll investigate further ... Best regards, Andreas Am Fr., 18. Feb. 2022 um 12:39 Uhr schrieb Craig Bradney < [email protected]>: > This can be affected by the libraries included in the OS or the build, > especially harfbuzz etc. It'd be great to get whatever sample files we can > to review. > > Thanks > Craig > > On 18/02/2022, 12:25, "Andreas Mair" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello! > > I think that's what happened here, too. I've started working on a "new" > document and noticed that some texts don't fit into the defined text > boxes. > By "new" I mean that I'll always start with the latest issue of that > magazine and change the texts etc. > > For the latest issue I used 1.5.7, now I'm using 1.5.8. After reading > your > posting I will try to go back to 1.5.7 and see if everything is fine > again, > just to exclude used libs (used font didn't change). > If it's simply a matter of running 1.5.7 or 1.5.8 I'll try to narrow > the > problem down. > > Best regards, > Andreas > > > > Am Do., 17. Feb. 2022 um 18:38 Uhr schrieb Martin Zaske LINGO < > [email protected]>: > > > Hi list > > > > I was getting help recently, while "hacking" a quick calendar with > > tab-stops. I opened it a few days later, once more, and made a second > > version. My document was made with version 1.5.7. > > > > This was after I had just installed version 1.5.8 (on Windows 10 pro, > > 64bit). The layout had changed some, text inside a text-frame had > > shifted. Since I had done some hacking (as explained in my last > thread) > > I blamed myself and quickly re-edited to make things align again. > > > > > > > > Today it happened again, but in a "good document", i.e. everything > > vanilla, no hacking: We are redesigning our magazine, moving from A3 > > page size to A4 and making spin-off versions for smart-phone screen > > proportions. > > > > I had started a sample template a few weeks ago. Now I have installed > > version 1.5.8 and again, I notice that text in my sample article has > > been shifted. > > > > > > I am using nothing fancy, two text-frames (as two columns) next to > each > > other on each page, with links between the frames. There are photos > on > > another layer above the texts and I am using the "text flows around > > contour line" option. I still have both versions on my machine and I > > made two identical copies and open them at the same time: Look > > different. Not a font issue, not a Windows issue as far as I can > tell. > > > > After more searching and opening the two identical copies of my file > > with swapped Scribus versions I have confirmed the problem. Now after > > some searching I can say, it is caused by different "interpretation" > of > > my main text style by the versions. > > > > I am using justified text with Fira Sans, Align to Baseline Grid, > > Optical Margins both sides, Advanced Settings: Min Space 80%, Glyph > > extension Min 95%, Max 105% (do not yell at me, early days) and > nothing > > fancy in the Character Style tab of my style definition. The text is > in > > an African language and (automatic) hyphenation is not activated. > > > > So when I open my document in different versions, somehow my text via > > style (alignment) gets rendered a little different than before. This > is > > affecting only certain lines, maybe one line every ten lines and I > > cannot say it is "more dense" in 1.5.8, some paratexts get a little > > longer. But the changes are still too much to allow a good work-flow. > > And in our office we use Windows and Linux machines and all versions > are > > 1.5.x but at different stages always. > > > > > > > > Now before I spend a lot of time with research: Have other users > noticed > > that same behaviour?: Text-layout or text-flow changes between > versions > > 1.5.7 and 1.5.8 in Windows? > > > > Is this "allowed" behaviour in the 1.5 series? I am aware this is > free > > software and my mail is not a complaint. I was just under the > > impressions (false?) that within one series like 1.5.x files or > Scribus > > would remain compatible. > > > > > > With any normal small project, I would just quickly fix it and be > done. > > But since we are preparing an entire re-design, I am now nervous > about > > this as you can imagine. > > > > > > > > Normally I cannot easily share documents because of data protection > and > > copyrights etc. But since I have only done the very first draft-steps > > and I only have used free photos from Pixabay, I could upload > somewhere > > if anybody would be interested to test. > > > > > > Thank you for your help and greetings, > > > > Martin > > > > > > -- > > courriel par Martin Zaske, membre de : > > > > LINGO-Bénin > > B.P. 48 > > Bassila > > Rep. du Bénin > > > > Tel. 00229 / 97.44.62.95 > > Tel. 00229 / 62.58.04.48 > > > > Organisation Non Gouvernementale > > Decret No. 2001-234 du 12 juillet 2001 > > No. d'enregistrement 6/033/P-SG STCCD-DCDI-ONG > > du 05 septembre 2012 > > > > Numéro IFU: 6201702245702 > > > > www.lingo-benin.org > > > > > > ___ > > Scribus Mailing List: [email protected] > > Edit your options or unsubscribe: > > http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus > > See also: > > http://wiki.scribus.net > > http://forums.scribus.net > > > -------------- n�chster Teil -------------- > Ein Dateianhang mit HTML-Daten wurde abgetrennt... > URL: < > http://lists.scribus.net/pipermail/scribus/attachments/20220218/07788d6d/attachment.htm > > > ___ > Scribus Mailing List: [email protected] > Edit your options or unsubscribe: > http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus > See also: > http://wiki.scribus.net > http://forums.scribus.net > > > > ___ > Scribus Mailing List: [email protected] > Edit your options or unsubscribe: > http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus > See also: > http://wiki.scribus.net > http://forums.scribus.net > -------------- n�chster Teil -------------- Ein Dateianhang mit HTML-Daten wurde abgetrennt... 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