On 2022-11-04 14:20, Gregory Pittman wrote:
On 11/4/22 13:48, Gary Dale wrote:
I'm running Debian/Bookworm on an AMD64 system. Scribus is v1.5.8.
I am having a lot of problems with styles. You can see the basic
problem in the attached image which is a screenshot of Edit | Style
window. I apparently have multiple "Default Paragraph Style"s, for
example. This survives shutting down Scribus and restarting, as well
as rebooting. Moreover I can't get rid of them without deleting the
style, which would require me to replace it with something else - the
extra copies don't show up in the "replace style with: dialogue so I
can't replace the deleted style with the real one.
To see what was going on, I opened my document in Kate and searched
for the style definition line. It only appears once but in this
particular case, I also found a "Default Paragraph Style (2)"
definition that doesn't show up in the list of styles.
For the "Bullet List Paragraph Style", which also appears 3 times,
there was just the single definition line. The bullet list definition
is a 3mm indent with a first line indent of -3mm. In Kate this shows
up as:
<STYLE NAME="Bullet List Paragraph Style" PARENT="Default
Paragraph Style" INDENT="8.50393700787402" FIRST="-8.50393700787402"
VOR="0"/>
However some of my bullet lists show the correct indents while others
seem to ignore them. I traced this down to flowing text around a
picture frame (pushing the left margin to the right of the picture).
When this happens, Scribus (incorrectly in my opinion) ignores the
indents. I suggest that the better behaviour is for Scribus to apply
the indent rules after wrapping the text, so that the first bit of
text in a line gets the first line indent while the subsequent lines
get the default indent.
Finally, when I import a page or copy a section of a different
document into a document, it pulls in all of the styles from the
source document and not just the ones used in that page/section. This
leaves me with a lot of extra styles that I have to delete. Scribus
doesn't even check to see if styles with the same name have the same
definition - it simply renames the imported style and uses it.
I believe it would be better to ask the user about conflicting names
when they actually occur in in the parts being imported rather than
simply assuming that we want to other document's styles. However,
even discarding the source document's styles when they conflict seems
better than duplicating them. Maybe is just my use case, but I think
its more likely that the destination document's styles are likely to
be the same or updated versions of the styles from the source document.
Hi Gary,
Somehow you've managed to create all these duplications. Your best bet
is to go through them and delete the ones you don't want. Scribus
expects you to be in control of the naming of styles.
I didn't create duplicates and they don't exist in the document - when I
open it in Kate, there is only one style element for the various
duplicated names. If I had created styles with duplicate names, there
should be multiple style elements with the same name.
Indeed, looking at the document, the style names only occur exactly
where I would I expect them - in the style element and in each paragraph
element that uses that style. There must something in the Scribus code
that is creating the duplicates because the duplicates are not in the
document's .sla file.
If you refer to the attachment in the original post, I just tried to
delete Bullet List 2 Paragraph Style, which I wasn't using (yet).
Deleting it removed all three occurrences in the single operation.
Adding it back in creates 3 new copies. However, you will note that
there is only one instance of List Paragraph Style, so it's not as
simple as the 3 "Default Paragraph Style"s propagating.
I notice there are also at least 2 styles that don't show up in the list
but are in the document (Copy of Default Paragraph Style & Default
Paragraph Style (2)) - but are only defined, not used. I can't delete
them directly through Scribus but they do show up in the list of
replacement styles dialogue.
Anyway, what this suggests is that the routine that loads the document
styles is creating duplicates for some reason. The Edit Styles dialogue
is omitting some styles that exist in the document and that must have
been loaded. Here's the style element for one of them:
<STYLE NAME="Copy of Default Paragraph Style" DefaultStyle="1" ALIGN="0"
LINESPMode="1" LINESP="15" INDENT="0" RMARGIN="0" FIRST="0" VOR="0"
NACH="0" ParagraphEffectOffset="0" DROP="0" DROPLIN="2"
OpticalMargins="0" CPARENT="Default Character Style"/>
As I said, I can see it as a replacement style but can't use it as a
style nor delete it.
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