Hi Dennis,
I think you and Dave are talking about different scripts.
The DNS pro version allows you to write scripts for it, using it's own
language. The windows speech recognition utility, which is available in
Windows vista and later for free as a part of Windows, also has this same
scripting ability, and it is free. So, if money is a problem, you could try
whatever you have in mind using WSR (by installing the separate macros
utility for it called WSRMacros). You must download WSRMacros from MS, it
is not built into Windows as the speech recognition is.
I do have an app named WSR which is meant to show someone the basic idea as
to how you would combine scripts for Window-Eyes, with scripts for the
speech recognition, to make a hands-free system for a blind person which
will respond to Window-eyes specific commands (which is what a blind voice
user needs; you need to be able to tell it to read the line, or the window,
or other things Window-Eyes does for you, and the only way to do so is to
use its scripting language, not the one which comes with the screen reader).
This is why Dave is bringing up the DNS/pro issue; it would make this task
for Dragon much easier if you could script both it and the screen reader.
However, since DNS/pro costs so much, if I were someone who had the time to
script it, I'd try with the free WSR first just to see what it was like.
In either case, I believe a scripter could sell his scripting product which
turns Windows into a speaking and listening platform for a blind user who
uses Window-Eyes.
I offer my WSR app, as it is, for free (all rights making it freeware) to
anyone who wants to start by using it. My only reservation is that I am
sorry, but I don't have a lot of time to help someone do this.
Here is the outline of what I believe needs to be done however, in case
anyone wants to work with WSR:
* get my WSR app. I have added a copy of the WSRMacros installer to my app,
and so if my app fails, you just install the WSRMacros.msi which comes with
the app (at the moment it's having an issue launching the installer for some
people, it may be a 64-bit issue).
* read about and learn WSR; separately, read about and learn the WSR macro
language. join the yahoo groups email list for MS-speech. They have a lot
of experts on WSR, and they have a download for tons of very sophisticated
speech macros which let you give your pc unbelievably vague commands, and it
figures out what you mean, and speaks any answer you need.
* Investigate a free open source WSRMacros add-on package named Vocola (I
never had time to look into it; it's supposed to expand the scripting
capabilities of WSR).
* You may want to purchase a utility for yourself named something like the
WSR toolkit (or perhaps the WSRMacros toolkit). This writes macros
automatically for you, using a wizard UI, and may help you in developing the
macros you need. I believe it offers some tutorials as well on macros.
* Define all the Window-Eyes verbal commands a blind user would need, using
the WSR macros and/or Vocola. These utiltimately will need to cause
Window-Eyes to do something, so look at the macro examples with my WSR app
to see how that's done.
* Fill out (I mean finish writing) the WSR app so it speaks any
inaccessible dialogs displayed by WSR (it does speak a few, but there's more
work to be done).
* Decide if this is donated work or if you want to sell it; if you want to
sell it, learn to use the WESign app from AI so that you can properly tie a
licensed copy of your app to a particular copy of Window-Eyes. It's my
belief that seeing a few people making money by writing WE apps, is what is
needed to really make WE take off, so all you people who want everything
free,
Please be understanding about the need for this and for having to pay for
someone's work.
I will copy this to the scripting list, and Jim, if you really want this,
you may want to consider hiring a scripter from this list and paying them to
develop this for you. The only other way for you to get a voice operated pc
which talks back to you is for you to buy jaws, then buy DNS/pro, and then
buy the J-say (or whatever they are called) macros to make DNS speak. You
are looking at many thousands of dollars, so it may be well worth it to pay
a scripter to develop for you.
Hth,
Chip
-----Original Message-----
From: Apps [mailto:apps-bounces+lists3717=comcast....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis via Apps
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 10:22 PM
To: Dave Bahr; Window-Eyes App Discussion List; K4NKZ JIM
Subject: Re: need help need to use Window-Eyes with Dragon Naturally
speaking home addision please read
Dave why would DNS pro be better? Why can Scripts be made for this and
not the home addition? Just curious.
On 2/15/2015 6:04 PM, Dave Bahr via Apps wrote:
You'd be better getting dns pro, honestly. You can then make scripts for
dragon to do what you need.
On 2/14/2015 7:46 AM, K4NKZ JIM via Apps wrote:
hi, let me tell you whats up!
1, I can do any keybord commands needed to run my computer! so I don't
need voice input to control the computer. that is why I don't need
Dragon Naturally speaking pro.
2, I have disslexeya! so I am a bad speller! so bad that the spell
checkers in programs like word, outlook, and thunderbird, don't know
what I am trying to spell!
3, new to Window-Eyes, so I do not know how to write, make, or use aps!
4, Window-Eyes tec subport said that I should go to jaws if I wanted
to useDragon Naturally speaking! but I am trying to get away from jaws!
5, so I need to use Dragon Naturally speaking home addision.
6, when traning Dragon, I need an ap with a hot key that will start
looking from the top of the screen down for print of 1 color with the
back ground of an nother color, like plack on light-blue. then it
would read the next 3 to 5 words. to tell me what to read.
7, when dictateing, I need a ap that will read what I am dictateing
back to me, a santence at a time.
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