if you all are worried about labels, than dont fucking use labels if you dont think sunny day are an emotionally based band, then call them rock, if you want to call them anything. i just have a problem with just saying music. ya know, godsmack is music, bush is music. i dont put those bands near sunny day as far as instrumentation or emotion. you cant just call art of any sort art the same way you cant call all crimes just crime. theres hate crime, white collar crime, street crime... if you take offense to labels so much why are you calling it something besides emo? i apologize for the lack of relevance directly to sunny day, but if people are going to whine about what to call this great band, im just gonna have to get pissed and call them out. maybe that is some sort of crime. -ben jawbox"chineese fork tie"