Well, the debate has been raging over the assertion that Sunny Day is 
universally good music and therefor superior to groups with less substance.

Personally, I don't think it is elitist to agree with that assertion. I don't 
know if any of you have read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, but 
it says a lot about the existence of quality. Quality is the only thing that 
is both objective and subjective; quality can be inherent in an object. And I 
think it is inherent in the music of Sunny Day. Sure I enjoy listening to 
other bands. This ties in to the discussion we had earlier about hair bands. 
But I realize that they don't exude (harbor, whatever) as much quality as 
Sunny Day. And while Sunny Day may be at the top of the heap in emotional 
quality, they may lack the musical quality of other bands. 

I think quality is real and attainable and recognizable. And I don't think 
it's elitist to think so.

Justin

n.p. Ben Folds Five "The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Messner"

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