Ditto in Ian, but he knows why.

I've got a project right now on EC2, mainly because they put us in their
Activate plan which is a great deal for a startup.

This has definitely been a pain point.  I've used EngineYard in the past
and it worked pretty well.

Jason


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jonathan Christensen <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I think Heroku could have been a fine choice for the app I'm working on,
> but I inherited it from someone else. It is an app that already has
> customers and a 4 machine deployment on ec2. Honestly when I took on the
> project, I overlooked the whole existing devops side of it because I
> thought the company already had that part in hand and just needed some new
> features. We live and learn. But rather than telling the client "I don't do
> that stuff" I want to help them out.
>
> And the service I'm looking for isn't just answering phones at 3 am but
> actually having expertise in dev ops. Knowing how to measure and monitor
> machine usage, knowing how to spin up new instances if needed,
> understanding the deployment architecture (aka these machines are queue
> processing machines and these ones are web hosting, app serving machines
> etc), being able to dig into the current architecture and tell me if we
> have backup and restore capabilities or whether we're exposed...
>
> Even if I take on dev ops myself -- ec2 or heroku or otherwise, if I'm not
> super careful to schedule time around it for monitoring and updates, I can
> find myself having surprise days where whether I like it or not, an old
> client forces me to give them all my attention for an entire day or more.
>
> If I partner with a person or company that really focuses on this end of
> the business, then that frees me up to focus on development and allows me
> to handle more clients.
>
> Thanks for the question,
> --Jon
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, John Lynch <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Ian/Jon, just curious why Heroku or other PaaS type services do not work
>> for you?
>>
>> - john
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Ian Young <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  This is something I often wish for as well, so if anyone passes Jon
>>> recommendations, please send them to me or the whole list as well!
>>>
>>> As a solo freelancer, I want to be able to offer some clients an
>>> end-to-end "I'll take care of it" sort of service, but ops is a crucial
>>> piece of that, and I will not volunteer to answer the phone at 3am because
>>> a network switch went down. I'd love to bundle my services with someone
>>> else who would have an initial contract to provision infrastructure, write
>>> Chef recipes, and get familiar with the project, plus a retainer for
>>> security updates and maintenance, plus an "emergency rate" for outages.
>>>
>>> Is anyone doing this sort of thing at a medium-small scale? This seems
>>> like a great business plan for a small devops consultancy.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014, at 08:55 AM, Jonathan Christensen wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've got a client that needs some help with operational support.
>>> Basically monitoring of uptime, occasionally restarting services on EC2
>>> instances, troubleshooting downtime, being able to know how to properly
>>> size and grow a deployment to meet traffic needs, being available not just
>>> during business hours... all the stuff that comes with operations.
>>>
>>> Do you guys know anyone who is independent that does this and enjoys it
>>> or a company with reasonable rates and good skills? I can do it myself, but
>>> it's not really my favorite thing to do nor my strong suit.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> --Jon
>>>
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