Thanks for the suggestion of long polling.  I'm definitely going to look
into that as an option.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:51 PM, bradleyland <[email protected]> wrote:

> Our app also has a "real-time" interface. Our app is a procurement app
> that orchestrates real-time reverse auctions. Many users sit down, log in,
> and participate in an auction at the same time. There are events that
> appear to update in real time to the user, but are actually updated by
> simple polling. We considered going web sockets until we looked at what
> we'd gain and what we'd lose.
>
> Polling actually scales out really well. With a socket, your users'
> connection is always consuming a socket, which is considered a resource.
> Scaling of resources with web sockets is 1:1 with concurrent users. With
> polling, you're essentially using time division to serve (potentially) many
> more users with lower actual concurrency. App server concurrency is usually
> the first bottleneck. If your app requests are served quickly, say 100ms,
> you can serve 10 requests per second with a single app server
> process/thread. If users are happy to get updates in one second, you have
> the ability to serve 10 users with a single app sever process/thread. We
> use a polling interval of 3 seconds and the illusion of real-time is
> upheld. People simply expect things to take some time.
>
> Once you go web sockets, the server handling the web socket based requests
> must have a socket available per user. Fortunately, there are Rails app
> servers that offer better concurrency these days, but that concurrency can
> still be put to good use with polling. The other option, which it looks
> like you've already identified, is to use a PaaS provider to outsource that
> bit. As you can see by Pusher's pricing, concurrency with web sockets gets
> expensive quickly.
>
> Just food for thought.
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 8:58:13 PM UTC-4, Chris McCann wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to put together a design for showing realtime data updates in
>> a Rails app in response to calls to an API from mobile devices.
>>
>> We recently released an Android and iOS version of our first app, Vor
>> Vision, which allows people to scan images that have an invisible code
>> embedded in them.  Think "invisible QR code", only without the ugly.  You
>> can check it out here:  vorvision.com
>>
>> I've built a Rails backend app that hosts the API and allows a user to
>> see scans of their images in realtime.  Currently I just do simple Ajax
>> polling but I want to significantly improve the app via a websockets-type
>> updating system.
>>
>> When a mobile user scans an image, the owner of that image, if they are
>> looking at the dashboard at that moment, should see the scan count for that
>> image increment, along with the geolocation of the latest scan, possibly
>> with a little highlighting or other chrome to call the user's attention to
>> the update.
>>
>> I haven't used React.js, Angular.js or any of the other client-side JS
>> frameworks, but one of these seems like a good fit for elegantly updating
>> the client side data elements.  The Flux-style architecture (from Facebook)
>> seems possibly useful, if it's not overkill.
>>
>> Using server sent events (SSE) or websockets (via Pusher) seems like a
>> good fit for the server side.
>>
>> Our local Planning Center Online published this:  http://developers.
>> planningcenteronline.com/2014/09/23/live-updating-rails-
>> with-react.js-and-pusher.html
>>
>> Has anyone else done this or something similar?  If so, what technology
>> stack did you use?  Got any pointers for me?
>>
>> Thanks all,
>>
>> Chris
>>
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