Well said Ian.

That particular pain point is the reason for Rails Installer (
http://railsinstaller.org/en). However, I have never used it myself.

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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Ian Young <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Rebecca,
>
> I think the lesson here is "use rbenv or rvm". These tools let you control
> your version of Ruby and upgrade on your own time rather than when your OS
> decides to. And just as importantly, they give you a Ruby that's a known
> quantity rather than whatever random changeset the OS developers grabbed
> and patched with who-knows-what and compiled with whatever flags they felt
> like using. If every Rubyist was using these tools, we'd see a vast
> reduction in overall grief.
>
> However, I am conflicted about offering that advice to someone who's
> starting with Ruby for the very first time. The process of getting your
> first Rails app from zero to booted is already pretty long and filled with
> installing and configuring mysterious things ("Ok, I downloaded Xcode, now
> I need homebrew, I guess? Wait, why am I installing Node.js? What's a
> coffee script?"), and rbenv/rvm adds one more mysterious tool to configure,
> not to mention one more decision that the newbie is not equipped to make. I
> wish there were a way to catch people right before they encounter their
> first major Ruby headache and funnel them to rbenv/rvm just in time.
>
> Ian
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016, at 04:15 PM, Rebecca Colavin wrote:
>
> Hi  Peter.
>
> There's a lesson here somewhere.... it may be "if you had installed El
> Capitan in a timely manner you would have heard about this when we were all
> talking about it" or "searching StackOverFlow requires some level of
> understanding" or possibly "By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Worvan,
> you shall be avenged."
>
> It's always so simple once you know the answer.
>
> Thanks for the support,
>
> Rebecca
>
> On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 3:57:39 PM UTC-8, Peter Fitzgibbons wrote:
>
> You updated Ruby.   The update to El Capitan breaks some of the dynamic
> links that were compiled into ruby.
> The El cap upgrade also btw breaks many homebrew installs.   I personally
> had to uninstall/reinstall many of the homebrew apps (postgres, redis, etc)
> Thanks for posting your findings!
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:49 PM Rebecca Colavin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Howdy All
>
> This was supposed to be a post begging for help... I have been having a
> segmentation fault when running "rails generate rspec:install" on a Mac. No
> posts on StackOverflow (stop spring etc) were any help whatsoever.  Just
> before submitting to the group,  I updated from OSX from Yosemite to El
> Cap, uninstalled and reinstalled rails, postgresql (I had previously had
> issues with installing the pg gem) and rspec. I updated ruby (2.0.0 to
> 2.0.0p643).
>
> Note that I had previously tried reinstalling rails with no effect
> whatsoever on the problem.
>
> I had previously been able to use rspec without incident. I do not know
> which particular dependency caused the problem but I just wanted to post
> here so the issue (and lame-brain solution) is documented. If someone has
> an idea what might have been the actual problem, that might be useful! I
> have the diagnostic report, if you should a need for a headache (I
> certainly have one).
>
> I hope my experience may be of help to some other poor newbie.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rebecca
>
>
>
>
>
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