Adrian:

http://seamframework.org/Seam3/ReportsModule

https://github.com/seam/reports

 

cheers,

tomaz

 

 

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian Gonzalez
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:41 AM
To: Tomaž Cerar; Jozef Hartinger; Antoine Sabot-Durand
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [seam-dev] Re : what about a seam2 - CDI Bridge ?

 

Hi Tomaz,

 

I'm no Seam developper (just a user) and I didn't begin any migration yet ;(

 

I'm interested about what alternative did you use for seam pdf/xls (seam 
pdf/xls - there is (good) alternative but it means rewrite all the templates)

 

Thanks very much for the feedback !

 

________________________________

De : Tomaž Cerar <[email protected]>
À : Jozef Hartinger <[email protected]>; Antoine Sabot-Durand 
<[email protected]> 
Cc : [email protected] 
Envoyé le : Lundi 28 Novembre 2011 11h28
Objet : Re: [seam-dev] what about a seam2 - CDI Bridge ?

Just programming model is not enough as it covers maybe 10% of the problems 
with seam2--> cdi+seam3 migration.
Also, there are scenarios that code that is automatically converted won't work. 
The biggest problems are:
    - @Out has no alternative in CDI (and rightly so)
    - @Factory as @Produces does not behave the same (producer from 
non-defendant scope cannot return null)
    - Component.getInstance("myComponent") can be mimicked in cdi but it is not 
the same

I have tried to migrate a medium size project from seam2 to cdi+ seam3 modules 
and the behavior of producers forced me to change the code quite a bit not just 
replace annotations.

If we put this aside, what I have found out when porting project was lots of 
features of seam2 that have no replacements in cdi+seam3 or parts where 
replacement means changing lots of code.
Currently there is no replacement or replacement is hard:
- seam application framework - for witch I think there could be an easy port if 
we retain same functionality/concept
- s:* tags - and taglibs in general(a4j:,rich:), there are no replacements for 
lots of components or behavior is totally different, changing all that is the 
biggest problem in project I am porting even with including monstrum like 
richfaces
- seam mail - all the templates have to be changed - new concept is great but 
backward compatibly is non-existent
- seam remoting - for gwt remoting now there is errai witch is great but 
migrating from seam gwt servlet to errai is whole project for itelf...
- seam pdf/xls - there is (good) alternative but it means rewrite all the 
templates
- rewriting support - what we have now is let's say ok(still missing few 
features of pages.xml), but external project, additional dependencies and 
non-seamless integration is quite a pain to maintain
And other small things that is got used to :-)

Really the biggest problem with migration is all that taglibs missing with no 
replacements, refactoring code is one thing and it can be quite well tested but 
refactor xhtml templates is a different beast that requires lots of changes to 
code and in some cases also UX and UI changes...

Before trying to go this path I tried to migrate project step by step in the 
way that seam2 could co-exists with cdi on AS7, for that I have created a fork 
of seam2 on my github that runs native on AS7 or say batter it runs as JEE6 
(JPA2,JSF2,...) it still has some issues but I stopped fixing that as the 
biggest problem was that it does play well with seam-persistence module as 
there is package clash... and I cannot use persistence in both seam components 
and in cdi ones.

There are lots of ideas how to attack problems of migrating from seam2 to seam3 
but as it seems there are lots of features missing and there is nothing to 
migrate to...
We talked about migration with Pete and Lincoln on JUDCON in Boston where idea 
for migration of code was a plugin to forge that would refactor the code for 
you and not go with cdi extension that would that for you at runtime...
Creating the bridge that would enable you getting cdi components in seam ones 
is quite easy if you know what you are doing but I don't know how useful it is 
in the long run, we have one project that is a hybrid like that and it gives us 
lots of development/maintenance issues...


Cheers,
tomaz


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jozef Hartinger
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 5:06 PM
To: Antoine Sabot-Durand
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [seam-dev] what about a seam2 - CDI Bridge ?

I've been working on something similar. It is a CDI extension that allows a 
Seam 2 application to run in an EE6 container without Seam 2. 
It focuses solely on the core programming model. Some of the Seam 2 -> CDI 
conversions are done at the deployment time while the rest is handled by a 
compatibility layer at runtime.

On 11/25/2011 02:26 PM, Antoine Sabot-Durand wrote:
> Reading the SeamNext thread and all these remarks about Seam 2 to Seam
> 3 migration I was wondering how difficult would it be to create a Seam
> 2 CDI extension to provide the same kind of bridge we have with Spring ?
>
> This bridge would be one way : using Seam 2 bean in CDI (the other way 
> is not relevant). It would help people to go thru the migration 
> process don't you think ?
>
> The biggest difficulty would probably be the Seam 2 navigation and 
> providing some kind of extension to merge JSF2 and Seam 2 navigation 
> seems a bit tricky.
>
>
>
> Antoine SABOT-DURAND
>
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