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Jason Porter commented on SEAMFACES-242:
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Here's the transcript of an IRC conversation with Brian Leathem (the Seam Faces 
lead):

{quote}
jbossbot        jira [SEAMFACES-242] WELD-001318 AmbiguousResolutionException 
with Converter having subclass [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] 
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-242   
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} Right.  
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     why does a bean lookup of a base class result 
in being ambiguous with the classes that extend it?       
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} I haven't looked at the code at all, but based 
on what he's seeing, how does this even work?    
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     If I lookup A   
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     and B extedns A 
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} Or is it only when there's a subclass involved  
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     why is B ambiguous with A?      
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     right   
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     this issue has to do with subclassing   
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} Because there are two of them   
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} A is an A and B is also an A    
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     so how can I lookup A?  
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     if I want A?    
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     if I wanted B, I'd lookup B     
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} A qualifier, B could also @Specialize   
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     hmm     
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} A could be an abstract class    
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} Well, then you'd get B anyway.  
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} If both A and B are concrete classes    
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     @Quliafirers won't work so well in the facelet 
scenario 
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} You have to use @Specializes or a qualifier     
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     so is there no resolution to be found here?     
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} Why would you subclass a validator or a 
converter?      
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} Wouldn't composition work better?       
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} hm      
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} Even if we return a set of beans that would 
work, how do we select the correct one?     
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} What's to say we'll actually get a subclass 
from JSF? What if it passes us the super class and what the developer is 
expecting is a subclass?   
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} All we get is a converterId (which would work) 
or a target class, which any of the subclasses should be able to handle  
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} It really seems like supporting inheritance 
here is going to be extremely difficult.    
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} If it's even possible   
{color:red}lightguard_jp{color} {color:blue}bleathem{color}: thoughts?  
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     {color:red}lightguard_jp{color}: that's a good 
summary of the problems we'd face in trying to support this use case     
{color:blue}bleathem{color}     I agree - composition would work better here
{quote}
                
> WELD-001318 AmbiguousResolutionException with Converter having subclass
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SEAMFACES-242
>                 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-242
>             Project: Seam Faces
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: CDI Integration, Validation & Conversion
>    Affects Versions: 3.1.0.Final
>         Environment: GF 3.1.2 with JDK 1.6.0b29 + SeamFaces 3.1.0 + RichFaces 
> 4.2.0
>            Reporter: Fab Mars
>
> On some page I have <rich:inputNumberSpinner label="Count" 
> value="#{orderLine.quantity}" converter="IntegerOrNullConverter".../>
> The converter to use is explicit. But I also extended that converter class 
> twice for other purposes.
> When accessing the page I get a WELD-001318 ambiguous dependency. Stacktrace 
> below.
> SeamApplicationWrapper#createConverter ends up calling 
> BeanManagerUtils#isDependentScoped which tries to CDI-resolve the the 
> converter type. Naturally weld finds the 3 converters (the one I asked for 
> and the 2 subclasses) and it complains as it should. I strongly believe 
> calling BM#resolve here is wrong.
> The same will happen with SeamApplicationWrapper#createValidator.
> 1) These methods should deal with only the actual requested type
> 2) The use of BeanManagerUtils.getContextualInstance in 
> SeamApplicationWrapper.attemptExtension will also lead to problems.
> 3) More generally, I BeanManagerUtils.isDependentScoped isn't selective 
> enough either
> Instead of #resolve, another utility method like this may be called:
> {code}
>     public <T> Set<Bean<?>> getExactBeanForType(final Class<T> type) {
>       Set<Bean<?>> beans = manager.getBeans(type);
>       for(Bean<?> bean : beans) {
>         if(type.equals(bean.getBeanClass())) {
>           return Collections.<Bean<?>>singleton(bean);
>         }
>       }
>       
>       return Collections.<Bean<?>>emptySet();
>     }
> {code}
> Stacktrace of the issue:
> {code}
> GRAVE: org.jboss.weld.exceptions.AmbiguousResolutionException: WELD-001318 
> Cannot resolve an ambiguous dependency between [Managed Bean [class 
> org.mars.toolkit.jsf.converter.MonthConverter] with qualifiers [@Any 
> @Default], Managed Bean [class 
> org.mars.toolkit.jsf.converter.IntegerOrNullConverter] with qualifiers [@Any 
> @Default], Managed Bean [class org.mars.toolkit.jsf.converter.YearConverter] 
> with qualifiers [@Any @Default]]
>     at 
> org.jboss.weld.manager.BeanManagerImpl.resolve(BeanManagerImpl.java:1013)
>     at 
> org.jboss.seam.faces.util.BeanManagerUtils.isDependentScoped(BeanManagerUtils.java:74)
>     at 
> org.jboss.seam.faces.environment.SeamApplicationWrapper.attemptExtension(SeamApplicationWrapper.java:81)
>     at 
> org.jboss.seam.faces.environment.SeamApplicationWrapper.createConverter(SeamApplicationWrapper.java:60)
>     at 
> org.jboss.seam.faces.environment.SeamApplicationWrapper$Proxy$_$$_WeldClientProxy.createConverter(SeamApplicationWrapper$Proxy$_$$_WeldClientProxy.java)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ValueHolderRule$LiteralConverterMetadata.applyMetadata(ValueHolderRule.java:85)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.MetadataImpl.applyMetadata(MetadataImpl.java:81)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.MetaTagHandler.setAttributes(MetaTagHandler.java:129)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.setAttributes(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:102)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.setAttributes(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:113)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.doNewComponentActions(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:409)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:159)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.CompositeFaceletHandler.apply(CompositeFaceletHandler.java:98)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:184)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:184)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.CompositeFaceletHandler.apply(CompositeFaceletHandler.java:98)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:184)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.CompositeFaceletHandler.apply(CompositeFaceletHandler.java:98)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:184)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.CompositeFaceletHandler.apply(CompositeFaceletHandler.java:98)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:184)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.CompositeFaceletHandler.apply(CompositeFaceletHandler.java:98)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:184)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:184)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandle.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BeaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelgateImpl.java:184)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.CompositeFaceletHandler.apply(CompositeFaceletHandler.java:98)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.compiler.NamespaceHandler.apply(NamespaceHandler.java:93)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.compiler.EncodingHandler.apply(EncodingHandler.java:86)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.impl.DefaultFacelet.include(DefaultFacelet.java:308)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.impl.DefaultFacelet.include(DefaultFacelet.java:367)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.impl.DefaultFacelet.include(DefaultFacelet.java:346)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.impl.DefaultFaceletContext.includeFacelet(DefaultFaceletContext.java:199)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.ui.IncludeHandler.apply(IncludeHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.CompositeFaceletHandler.apply(CompositeFaceletHandler.java:98)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.ui.DefineHandler.applyDefinition(DefineHandler.java:107)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.ui.CompositionHandler.apply(CompositionHandler.java:178)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.impl.DefaultFaceletContext$TemplateManager.apply(DefaultFaceletContext.java:395)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.impl.DefaultFaceletContext.includeDefinition(DefaultFaceletContext.java:366)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.ui.InsertHandler.apply(InsertHandler.java:112)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.CompositeFaceletHandler.apply(CompositeFaceletHandler.java:98)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at 
> com.sun.faces.facelets.tag.jsf.ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.apply(ComponentTagHandlerDelegateImpl.java:184)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.apply(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:120)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.CompositeFaceletHandler.apply(CompositeFaceletHandler.java:98)
>     at 
> javax.faces.view.facelets.DelegatingMetaTagHandler.applyNextHandler(DelegatingMetaTagHandler.java:137)
>     at 
> org.richfaces.view.facelets.html.BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.applyNextHandler(BehaviorsAddingComponentHandlerWrapper.java:53)
>     at com.sun.faces.
> {code}

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