Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[cam]

> What about Drawterm on Mac? Is it working well?

yes.  i use drawterm from 

http://code.swtch.com/drawterm

i compiled it to run under X since i have to run that beast 
anyways, but there is also drawterm-cocoa which builds 
and runs native under osx.

http://bitbucket.org/jas/drawterm-cocoa

> This would require of course configuring a CPU server...

if you want the full experience of plan9, that is a given.  it
is not hard to do; and once you have a cpu/auth server,
booting additional cpu servers is an incredibly trivial task.

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[Shane Morris]

The older versions refused to run. I've not tried this version I downloaded
today, only the "qemu-img" inside the package which worked fine.


On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:55 PM,  wrote:

> > Q for Mac is horrible, dodgy software. Then again, I didn't build it from
> > source. The good thing is, it'll convert images just fine.
>
> older versions probably.  i built qemu-1.7.0 from source before
> 2.0 was stable and have had no problems.  i own fusion, but i
> prefer qemu since fusion occupies kernel memory (meaning an
> idle vm cannot be swapped out), and it uses about 30% more
> memory per vm than qemu does.
>
> what problems did you have with it?
>
>
>

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[cam]

> Q for Mac is horrible, dodgy software. Then again, I didn't build it from
> source. The good thing is, it'll convert images just fine.

older versions probably.  i built qemu-1.7.0 from source before
2.0 was stable and have had no problems.  i own fusion, but i 
prefer qemu since fusion occupies kernel memory (meaning an 
idle vm cannot be swapped out), and it uses about 30% more 
memory per vm than qemu does.  

what problems did you have with it?

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[Shane Morris]

Using the ANTS CPU server image, and Drawterm-Cocoa.


On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:43 PM, dante  wrote:

> What about Drawterm on Mac? Is it working well?
> This would require of course configuring a CPU server...
>
> Thanks,
> Dante
>
>
> On 21.07.2014 10:39, c...@9.squish.org wrote:
>
>> In tried to install Inferno because I thought that it was the simplest
>>> way to access (at least the file system of) my Plan9 Raspberry Pi from
>>> my Mac.
>>> The other solutions I tried are awkward:
>>> 1. Plan9 under Virtual Box (don't want to pay for VMWare/Parallels).
>>>  Configured network card according to Richard Miller's suggestion.
>>>  Boots, but sometimes it doesn't, requiring to restart the program.
>>>  Network works only sometimes.
>>>
>>
>> have you tried qemu?  plan9 works wonderfully as a guest.
>> network access is as reliable as your mac.
>>
>
> Will do.
>
>
>
>>  2. Plan9 from user space, installed over Brew.
>>>  It works, but I don't see there any way to import (mount) the
>>> remote file system locally
>>>
>>
>> install macfuse and then you can use 9pfuse.  it works, though
>> it is a bit slow.
>>
>
>

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[dante]

What about Drawterm on Mac? Is it working well?
This would require of course configuring a CPU server...

Thanks,
Dante

On 21.07.2014 10:39, c...@9.squish.org wrote:
In tried to install Inferno because I thought that it was the 
simplest
way to access (at least the file system of) my Plan9 Raspberry Pi 
from

my Mac.
The other solutions I tried are awkward:
1. Plan9 under Virtual Box (don't want to pay for VMWare/Parallels).
 Configured network card according to Richard Miller's 
suggestion.
 Boots, but sometimes it doesn't, requiring to restart the 
program.

 Network works only sometimes.


have you tried qemu?  plan9 works wonderfully as a guest.
network access is as reliable as your mac.


Will do.




2. Plan9 from user space, installed over Brew.
 It works, but I don't see there any way to import (mount) the
remote file system locally


install macfuse and then you can use 9pfuse.  it works, though
it is a bit slow.

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[Shane Morris]

Q for Mac is horrible, dodgy software. Then again, I didn't build it from
source. The good thing is, it'll convert images just fine.


On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:39 PM,  wrote:

> > In tried to install Inferno because I thought that it was the simplest
> > way to access (at least the file system of) my Plan9 Raspberry Pi from
> > my Mac.
> > The other solutions I tried are awkward:
> > 1. Plan9 under Virtual Box (don't want to pay for VMWare/Parallels).
> >  Configured network card according to Richard Miller's suggestion.
> >  Boots, but sometimes it doesn't, requiring to restart the program.
> >  Network works only sometimes.
>
> have you tried qemu?  plan9 works wonderfully as a guest.
> network access is as reliable as your mac.
>
> > 2. Plan9 from user space, installed over Brew.
> >  It works, but I don't see there any way to import (mount) the
> > remote file system locally
>
> install macfuse and then you can use 9pfuse.  it works, though
> it is a bit slow.
>
>
>

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[cam]

> In tried to install Inferno because I thought that it was the simplest 
> way to access (at least the file system of) my Plan9 Raspberry Pi from 
> my Mac.
> The other solutions I tried are awkward:
> 1. Plan9 under Virtual Box (don't want to pay for VMWare/Parallels).
>  Configured network card according to Richard Miller's suggestion.
>  Boots, but sometimes it doesn't, requiring to restart the program.
>  Network works only sometimes.

have you tried qemu?  plan9 works wonderfully as a guest.
network access is as reliable as your mac.

> 2. Plan9 from user space, installed over Brew.
>  It works, but I don't see there any way to import (mount) the 
> remote file system locally

install macfuse and then you can use 9pfuse.  it works, though
it is a bit slow.

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[Shane Morris]

No, the reasons I attempted an install is because I have no experience
getting hosted Inferno to run in Plan 9, although I possess a couple of
stable Plan 9 VMs (when they can reach the network, they'll ping 8.8.8.8,
but not get any sites like sources or 9gridchan - to be fair, there seems
to be network problems on those sites at the exact times I want to do
something, as I can't mount sources from Mac9P either), and I wish to have
an ARM Inferno compiler to start compiling against the Parallella,
following the guide at lynxline blog, and the boot up process at
parallella.org. I am yet to try anything, I think I'll leave it to tomorrow
at this stage.


On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:12 PM, dante  wrote:

> Hi Shane,
>
> Removing the compile argument won't help (leads to errors somewhere else).
> I think that the most expedient solution is Ramkrishnan's.
>
> In order to catch this sort of errors, some sort of "continuous
> integration" would be needed.
> I have no idea how this could be done without investing into a real Mac
> machine, which is costly.
>
> I reported the error to the person shown in the Hg commits; there was
> unfortunately no response yet.
> Does anyone know which is the proper channel to report issues with Inferno?
>
> Shane, I'm just curious: did you try to install Inferno for reasons
> similar to mine (here below)?
>
> In tried to install Inferno because I thought that it was the simplest way
> to access (at least the file system of) my Plan9 Raspberry Pi from my Mac.
> The other solutions I tried are awkward:
> 1. Plan9 under Virtual Box (don't want to pay for VMWare/Parallels).
> Configured network card according to Richard Miller's suggestion.
> Boots, but sometimes it doesn't, requiring to restart the program.
> Network works only sometimes.
> 2. Plan9 from user space, installed over Brew.
> It works, but I don't see there any way to import (mount) the remote
> file system locally.
>
> Cheers,
> Dante
>
>
> On 21.07.2014 04:55, Shane Morris wrote:
>
>> Hello again 9fans,
>>
>> I'm also trying to compile hosted Inferno for OS X 10.9, all seems to
>> go well until the "mk install" giving this error message:
>>
>>  shanes-air-2:inferno-os boris$ PATH=`pwd`/MacOSX/386/bin:$PATH mk
>> install
>> (cd lib9; mk  install)
>> cc -c -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4
>> -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Wuninitialized -Wunused -Wreturn-type
>> -Wimplicit -Wno-four-char-constants -Wno-unknown-pragmas -pipe
>> -fno-strict-aliasing -no-cpp-precomp -mno-fused-madd
>> -I/Users/boris/Documents/inferno-os/MacOSX/386/include
>> -I/Users/boris/Documents/inferno-os/include -Os convD2M.c
>> clang: error: unknown argument: '-mno-fused-madd'
>> [-Wunused-command-line-argument-hard-error-in-future]
>> clang: note: this will be a hard error (cannot be downgraded to a
>> warning) in the future
>> mk: cc -c -arch ...  : exit status=exit(1)
>> mk: for j in ...  : exit status=exit(1)
>> shanes-air-2:inferno-os boris$
>>
>> Does anyone have any insight?
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
>> Shane.
>>
>
>

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[dante]

Hi Shane,

Removing the compile argument won't help (leads to errors somewhere 
else).

I think that the most expedient solution is Ramkrishnan's.

In order to catch this sort of errors, some sort of "continuous 
integration" would be needed.
I have no idea how this could be done without investing into a real Mac 
machine, which is costly.


I reported the error to the person shown in the Hg commits; there was 
unfortunately no response yet.
Does anyone know which is the proper channel to report issues with 
Inferno?


Shane, I'm just curious: did you try to install Inferno for reasons 
similar to mine (here below)?


In tried to install Inferno because I thought that it was the simplest 
way to access (at least the file system of) my Plan9 Raspberry Pi from 
my Mac.

The other solutions I tried are awkward:
1. Plan9 under Virtual Box (don't want to pay for VMWare/Parallels).
Configured network card according to Richard Miller's suggestion.
Boots, but sometimes it doesn't, requiring to restart the program.
Network works only sometimes.
2. Plan9 from user space, installed over Brew.
It works, but I don't see there any way to import (mount) the 
remote file system locally.


Cheers,
Dante

On 21.07.2014 04:55, Shane Morris wrote:

Hello again 9fans,

I'm also trying to compile hosted Inferno for OS X 10.9, all seems to
go well until the "mk install" giving this error message:

 shanes-air-2:inferno-os boris$ PATH=`pwd`/MacOSX/386/bin:$PATH mk 
install

(cd lib9; mk  install)
cc -c -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4
-Wno-deprecated-declarations -Wuninitialized -Wunused -Wreturn-type
-Wimplicit -Wno-four-char-constants -Wno-unknown-pragmas -pipe
-fno-strict-aliasing -no-cpp-precomp -mno-fused-madd
-I/Users/boris/Documents/inferno-os/MacOSX/386/include
-I/Users/boris/Documents/inferno-os/include -Os convD2M.c
clang: error: unknown argument: '-mno-fused-madd'
[-Wunused-command-line-argument-hard-error-in-future]
clang: note: this will be a hard error (cannot be downgraded to a
warning) in the future
mk: cc -c -arch ...  : exit status=exit(1)
mk: for j in ...  : exit status=exit(1)
shanes-air-2:inferno-os boris$

Does anyone have any insight?

Many thanks!

Shane.

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan]

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Shane Morris  wrote:
> Hello again 9fans,
>
> I'm also trying to compile hosted Inferno for OS X 10.9, all seems to go
> well until the "mk install" giving this error message:
>
> shanes-air-2:inferno-os boris$ PATH=`pwd`/MacOSX/386/bin:$PATH mk install
> (cd lib9; mk  install)
> cc -c -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -Wno-deprecated-declarations
> -Wuninitialized -Wunused -Wreturn-type -Wimplicit -Wno-four-char-constants
> -Wno-unknown-pragmas -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -no-cpp-precomp
> -mno-fused-madd -I/Users/boris/Documents/inferno-os/MacOSX/386/include
> -I/Users/boris/Documents/inferno-os/include -Os convD2M.c
> clang: error: unknown argument: '-mno-fused-madd'
> [-Wunused-command-line-argument-hard-error-in-future]
> clang: note: this will be a hard error (cannot be downgraded to a warning)
> in the future
> mk: cc -c -arch ...  : exit status=exit(1)
> mk: for j in ...  : exit status=exit(1)
> shanes-air-2:inferno-os boris$
>
> Does anyone have any insight?

Hi,

On OS X 10.9.x, gcc points to clang. I installed gcc-4.9.0 from source
(follow instructions on this page, for example:
 to
get a working gcc. I don't use a package manager on OSX these days, I
compile/install what I need, from source.)

I then edited mkfiles/mkfile-MacOSX-386 to point to the newly built
gcc (I called the gcc binary gcc-4.9.0). Here is the complete file.

TARGMODEL=  Posix
TARGSHTYPE= sh
CPUS=   386

O=  o
OS= o

AR= ar
ARFLAGS=ruvs
A=  a

AS= gcc-4.9.0 -c -arch i386 -m32
ASFLAGS=

ISYSROOT=   -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk

CC= gcc-4.9.0 -c -m32
COPTFLAGS=  -Os
CDEBUGFLAGS=
CTHREADFLAGS=
CFLAGS= -arch i386 -m32\
-mmacosx-version-min=10.6\
-Wno-deprecated-declarations -Wuninitialized -Wunused
-Wreturn-type -Wimplicit -Wno-four-char-constants
-Wno-unknown-pragmas\
-pipe\
-fno-strict-aliasing\
-mno-fused-madd\
-I$ROOT/MacOSX/386/include\
-I$ROOT/include\
$COPTFLAGS $CDEBUGFLAGS\

LD= gcc -arch i386 -m32
LDFLAGS=\
-mmacosx-version-min=10.4\
-multiply_defined suppress

SYSLIBS=

YACC=   iyacc
YFLAGS= -d


-- 
  Ramakrishnan

Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

[tlaronde]

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:55:44PM +1000, Shane Morris wrote:
>
> clang: error: unknown argument: '-mno-fused-madd'
> [-Wunused-command-line-argument-hard-error-in-future]
> clang: note: this will be a hard error (cannot be downgraded to a warning)
> in the future

Apparently the "future hard error" is treated as an error.

It looks like clang does not understand the gcc argument
'-mno-fused-madd'. Only the developers of Inferno would know if
multiply-add for float caveat is really a requisite for Inferno.
So look if there is the equivalent in clang, and convert the
argument; or suppress it where it is defined in the mkfiles (perhaps
it is necessary for gcc, doing "things", and not necessary with
another compiler, so the compiled program will not exhibit any
problem).

HTH
-- 
Thierry Laronde 
  http://www.kergis.com/
  http://www.renaissance-francaise.fr/
Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89  250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] Compiler Message

[Shane Morris]

Hello again 9fans,

I'm also trying to compile hosted Inferno for OS X 10.9, all seems to go
well until the "mk install" giving this error message:

shanes-air-2:inferno-os boris$ PATH=`pwd`/MacOSX/386/bin:$PATH mk install
(cd lib9; mk  install)
cc -c -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -Wno-deprecated-declarations
-Wuninitialized -Wunused -Wreturn-type -Wimplicit -Wno-four-char-constants
-Wno-unknown-pragmas -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -no-cpp-precomp
-mno-fused-madd -I/Users/boris/Documents/inferno-os/MacOSX/386/include
-I/Users/boris/Documents/inferno-os/include -Os convD2M.c
clang: error: unknown argument: '-mno-fused-madd'
[-Wunused-command-line-argument-hard-error-in-future]
clang: note: this will be a hard error (cannot be downgraded to a warning)
in the future
mk: cc -c -arch ...  : exit status=exit(1)
mk: for j in ...  : exit status=exit(1)
shanes-air-2:inferno-os boris$

Does anyone have any insight?

Many thanks!

Shane.