Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics
Hi :) Ahh, it's good to know someone that is kinda in the BoD is here. If i was a member i would vote in favour of Sophie just for that if nothing else but there are plenty other good reasons to vote for her too imo. Similarly with Jean although most of the reasons are different. The wiki-page for bug-reporting is probably not perfect and could do with some editing to make it easier to understand. It does get the job done though. Top marks to whoever wrote it. A resource that is often over-looked is "people". There is likely to be lot of other people that follow the Paralympics that had no interest in watching the corporate-sponsored Olympics earlier in August. Even people not following it might be vaguely aware of it. It's a good time to make people on other lists aware of issues within Libra Office. As confirmed by Sophie i'm not a good man for that task. Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 31/8/12, Sophie Gautier wrote: From: Sophie Gautier Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org, "Tom Davies" Date: Friday, 31 August, 2012, 19:10 Hi Tom, On 31/08/2012 12:50, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) I think right now is an excellent time to push any > Accessibility Agendas to a wide variety of lists. Sadly people on > most lists ignore me or disagree with anything i say sometimes purely > because it's me that's saying it. First, paralympics unfortunately won't have any influence on our resources. I hope that you have enough confidence in us to trust that if we don't look at something right when we are aware of it, it's not because of lack of interest. We try to manage our resources for the best for all our users, but unfortunately we are also quite short here. Second, we don't ignore or disagree with what you said because of you, it's not personal, but sometimes you give your opinion on something you have no idea about. Because most of us are reading a lot of lists, are doing a lot in the project, we just ignore what you said (i.e because it's not a real answer) or sometimes we may over react because we have lost some precious time reading one of your mail and it didn't bring any added value for us. We are not right, you are not wrong, we both (you and us) need to think before replying. Your reply will be read, but this time may be taken from others in the community who may be in more needs (and I hope that my English is enough to explain that it's not against you at all.) > So, can other people push any of the ideas of current (or past) > threads to any of the other lists? Is anyone here on the BoD? I've > been told that the "discuss@" list is a good place to reach the BoD > but i tend to find Marketing is reaches quite a lot of them. > The board has nothing to do here. The board is here to manage the foundation (administration, expenses, etc...) and eventually conflicts that may appear in the community. The request from Alex should be directed to the QA list because he his willing to bring some attention on a special area of the product, however this area belongs to the QA subproject, and may be he should be sent to the wiki for more information on how to fill a bug. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier Tel:+33683901545 Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics
Yes, I would very much like a link to the wiki or whatever resource is available for going through the proper procedure to file bug reports. The stuff does not even ahve to be in English. I am conversant in 7 languages. I'm sure there's something written in one I understand. Saludos. Alex M On 8/31/12, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hi Tom, > On 31/08/2012 12:50, Tom Davies wrote: >> Hi :) I think right now is an excellent time to push any >> Accessibility Agendas to a wide variety of lists. Sadly people on >> most lists ignore me or disagree with anything i say sometimes purely >> because it's me that's saying it. > > First, paralympics unfortunately won't have any influence on our > resources. I hope that you have enough confidence in us to trust that if > we don't look at something right when we are aware of it, it's not > because of lack of interest. We try to manage our resources for the best > for all our users, but unfortunately we are also quite short here. > > Second, we don't ignore or disagree with what you said because of you, > it's not personal, but sometimes you give your opinion on something > you have no idea about. Because most of us are reading a lot of lists, > are doing a lot in the project, we just ignore what you said (i.e > because it's not a real answer) or sometimes we may over react because > we have lost some precious time reading one of your mail and it didn't > bring any added value for us. We are not right, you are not wrong, we > both (you and us) need to think before replying. Your reply will be > read, but this time may be taken from others in the community who may be > in more needs (and I hope that my English is enough to explain that it's > not against you at all.) >> So, can other people push any of the ideas of current (or past) >> threads to any of the other lists? Is anyone here on the BoD? I've >> been told that the "discuss@" list is a good place to reach the BoD >> but i tend to find Marketing is reaches quite a lot of them. >> > The board has nothing to do here. The board is here to manage the > foundation (administration, expenses, etc...) and eventually conflicts > that may appear in the community. The request from Alex should be > directed to the QA list because he his willing to bring some attention > on a special area of the product, however this area belongs to the QA > subproject, and may be he should be sent to the wiki for more > information on how to fill a bug. > > Kind regards > Sophie > -- > Sophie Gautier > Tel:+33683901545 > Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder > The Document Foundation > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics
Hi Tom, On 31/08/2012 12:50, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think right now is an excellent time to push any Accessibility Agendas to a wide variety of lists. Sadly people on most lists ignore me or disagree with anything i say sometimes purely because it's me that's saying it. First, paralympics unfortunately won't have any influence on our resources. I hope that you have enough confidence in us to trust that if we don't look at something right when we are aware of it, it's not because of lack of interest. We try to manage our resources for the best for all our users, but unfortunately we are also quite short here. Second, we don't ignore or disagree with what you said because of you, it's not personal, but sometimes you give your opinion on something you have no idea about. Because most of us are reading a lot of lists, are doing a lot in the project, we just ignore what you said (i.e because it's not a real answer) or sometimes we may over react because we have lost some precious time reading one of your mail and it didn't bring any added value for us. We are not right, you are not wrong, we both (you and us) need to think before replying. Your reply will be read, but this time may be taken from others in the community who may be in more needs (and I hope that my English is enough to explain that it's not against you at all.) So, can other people push any of the ideas of current (or past) threads to any of the other lists? Is anyone here on the BoD? I've been told that the "discuss@" list is a good place to reach the BoD but i tend to find Marketing is reaches quite a lot of them. The board has nothing to do here. The board is here to manage the foundation (administration, expenses, etc...) and eventually conflicts that may appear in the community. The request from Alex should be directed to the QA list because he his willing to bring some attention on a special area of the product, however this area belongs to the QA subproject, and may be he should be sent to the wiki for more information on how to fill a bug. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier Tel:+33683901545 Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics
Hi :) I think right now is an excellent time to push any Accessibility Agendas to a wide variety of lists. Sadly people on most lists ignore me or disagree with anything i say sometimes purely because it's me that's saying it. So, can other people here push any of the ideas of current (or past) threads to any of the other lists? Is anyone here on the BoD? I've been told that the "discuss@" list is a good place to reach the BoD but i tend to find Marketing is reaches quite a lot of them. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted