Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics

2012-09-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, it's good to know someone that is kinda in the BoD is here.  If i was a 
member i would vote in favour of Sophie just for that if nothing else but there 
are plenty other good reasons to vote for her too imo.  Similarly with Jean 
although most of the reasons are different.  

The wiki-page for bug-reporting is probably not perfect and could do with some 
editing to make it easier to understand.  It does get the job done though.  Top 
marks to whoever wrote it.  

A resource that is often over-looked is "people".  There is likely to be  lot 
of other people that follow the Paralympics that had no interest in watching 
the corporate-sponsored Olympics earlier in August.  Even people not following 
it might be vaguely aware of it.  It's a good time to make people on other 
lists aware of issues within Libra Office.  As confirmed by Sophie i'm not a 
good man for that task.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Fri, 31/8/12, Sophie Gautier  wrote:

From: Sophie Gautier 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics
To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org, "Tom Davies" 
Date: Friday, 31 August, 2012, 19:10

Hi Tom,
On 31/08/2012 12:50, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :) I think right now is an excellent time to push any
> Accessibility Agendas to a wide variety of lists.  Sadly people on
> most lists ignore me or disagree with anything i say sometimes purely
> because it's me that's saying it.

First, paralympics unfortunately won't have any influence on our resources. I 
hope that you have enough confidence in us to trust that if we don't look at 
something right when we are aware of it, it's not because of lack of interest. 
We try to manage our resources for the best for all our users, but 
unfortunately we are also quite short here.

Second, we don't ignore or disagree with what you said because of you, it's not 
personal, but sometimes you give your opinion on something
you have no idea about. Because most of us are reading a lot of lists, are 
doing a lot in the project, we just ignore what you said (i.e because it's not 
a real answer) or sometimes we may over react because we have lost some 
precious time reading one of your mail and it didn't bring any added value for 
us. We are not right, you are not wrong, we both (you and us) need to think 
before replying. Your reply will be read, but this time may be taken from 
others in the community who may be in more needs (and I hope that my English is 
enough to explain that it's not against you at all.)
> So, can other people push any of the ideas of current (or past)
> threads to any of the other lists?  Is anyone here on the BoD?  I've
> been told that the "discuss@" list is a good place to reach the BoD
> but i tend to find Marketing is reaches quite a lot of them.
> 
The board has nothing to do here. The board is here to manage the foundation 
(administration, expenses, etc...) and eventually conflicts that may appear in 
the community. The request from Alex should be directed to the QA list because 
he his willing to bring some attention on a special area of the product, 
however this area belongs to the QA subproject, and may be he should be sent to 
the wiki for more information on how to fill a bug.

Kind regards
Sophie
-- Sophie Gautier 
Tel:+33683901545
Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder
The Document Foundation

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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics

2012-08-31 Thread Alex Midence
Yes, I would very much like a link to the wiki or whatever resource is
available for going through the proper procedure to file bug reports.
The stuff does not even ahve to be in English.  I am conversant in 7
languages.  I'm sure there's something written in one I understand.

Saludos.
Alex M


On 8/31/12, Sophie Gautier  wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> On 31/08/2012 12:50, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :) I think right now is an excellent time to push any
>> Accessibility Agendas to a wide variety of lists.  Sadly people on
>> most lists ignore me or disagree with anything i say sometimes purely
>> because it's me that's saying it.
>
> First, paralympics unfortunately won't have any influence on our
> resources. I hope that you have enough confidence in us to trust that if
> we don't look at something right when we are aware of it, it's not
> because of lack of interest. We try to manage our resources for the best
> for all our users, but unfortunately we are also quite short here.
>
> Second, we don't ignore or disagree with what you said because of you,
> it's not personal, but sometimes you give your opinion on something
> you have no idea about. Because most of us are reading a lot of lists,
> are doing a lot in the project, we just ignore what you said (i.e
> because it's not a real answer) or sometimes we may over react because
> we have lost some precious time reading one of your mail and it didn't
> bring any added value for us. We are not right, you are not wrong, we
> both (you and us) need to think before replying. Your reply will be
> read, but this time may be taken from others in the community who may be
> in more needs (and I hope that my English is enough to explain that it's
> not against you at all.)
>> So, can other people push any of the ideas of current (or past)
>> threads to any of the other lists?  Is anyone here on the BoD?  I've
>> been told that the "discuss@" list is a good place to reach the BoD
>> but i tend to find Marketing is reaches quite a lot of them.
>>
> The board has nothing to do here. The board is here to manage the
> foundation (administration, expenses, etc...) and eventually conflicts
> that may appear in the community. The request from Alex should be
> directed to the QA list because he his willing to bring some attention
> on a special area of the product, however this area belongs to the QA
> subproject, and may be he should be sent to the wiki for more
> information on how to fill a bug.
>
> Kind regards
> Sophie
> --
> Sophie Gautier 
> Tel:+33683901545
> Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder
> The Document Foundation
>
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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics

2012-08-31 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Tom,
On 31/08/2012 12:50, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :) I think right now is an excellent time to push any
Accessibility Agendas to a wide variety of lists.  Sadly people on
most lists ignore me or disagree with anything i say sometimes purely
because it's me that's saying it.


First, paralympics unfortunately won't have any influence on our 
resources. I hope that you have enough confidence in us to trust that if 
we don't look at something right when we are aware of it, it's not 
because of lack of interest. We try to manage our resources for the best 
for all our users, but unfortunately we are also quite short here.


Second, we don't ignore or disagree with what you said because of you, 
it's not personal, but sometimes you give your opinion on something
you have no idea about. Because most of us are reading a lot of lists, 
are doing a lot in the project, we just ignore what you said (i.e 
because it's not a real answer) or sometimes we may over react because 
we have lost some precious time reading one of your mail and it didn't 
bring any added value for us. We are not right, you are not wrong, we 
both (you and us) need to think before replying. Your reply will be 
read, but this time may be taken from others in the community who may be 
in more needs (and I hope that my English is enough to explain that it's 
not against you at all.)

So, can other people push any of the ideas of current (or past)
threads to any of the other lists?  Is anyone here on the BoD?  I've
been told that the "discuss@" list is a good place to reach the BoD
but i tend to find Marketing is reaches quite a lot of them.

The board has nothing to do here. The board is here to manage the 
foundation (administration, expenses, etc...) and eventually conflicts 
that may appear in the community. The request from Alex should be 
directed to the QA list because he his willing to bring some attention 
on a special area of the product, however this area belongs to the QA 
subproject, and may be he should be sent to the wiki for more 
information on how to fill a bug.


Kind regards
Sophie
--
Sophie Gautier 
Tel:+33683901545
Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder
The Document Foundation

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[libreoffice-accessibility] timing, Paralympics

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think right now is an excellent time to push any Accessibility Agendas to a 
wide variety of lists.  Sadly people on most lists ignore me or disagree with 
anything i say sometimes purely because it's me that's saying it.  


So, can other people here push any of the ideas of current (or past) threads to 
any of the other lists?  Is anyone here on the BoD?  I've been told that the 
"discuss@" list is a good place to reach the BoD but i tend to find Marketing 
is reaches quite a lot of them.  

Regards from
Tom :)

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