Re: Three Important Things for Plasma Active 3

2012-10-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Saturday 13 October 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
 On Saturday, October 13, 2012 15:03:45 Marco Martin wrote:
  all in all, the right apps to bring forward tough. the real big one would
  be the file browser, but is very difficul to talk about it without
  sounding nerdy, so should be put forward as a core feature of the os
  rather than an app
 
 agreed; imho it is part of the Activity workflow, where the system cares
 about helping you manage / organize your information in a humane way.

so what can be said is that
your files aren't behind the wall of a single app, but you have the freedom to 
control and organize them as you want, putting the user back in control of 
hisown files

Cheers,
Marco Martin
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Re: Three Important Things for Plasma Active 3

2012-10-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:27:26 Inge Wallin wrote:
 However, what I'm missing is who Plasma Active (PA) in general and this
 release in particular is aimed at. Is Plasma Active aimed at the general
 public who browses the web and watches videos? Or is it aimed at tinkerers
 (hobbyists or professionals) who really need a fully customizable platform?

Yes. ;)

 My guess is that the first category would be served well by PA itself but
 would find the very limited number of downloadable applications a major
 turn- off. 

Depends on what they use their tablet for. The limited number of apps is an 
innevitable part of the journey, and we are rather purposefully designing 
something that is useful out of the box rather than something that relies on 
applications. We simply are not playing the app count game; we're delivering a 
system that provides the essential use cases for people who use their tablets 
for online and offline content (with some nice bonuses like some games).

As for application availability, that will come with the availability of 
hardware. We've filled a large gap with the Add Ons app so that we have a nice 
way to deliver additional content, including such apps, but it's obvious we 
won't see 1000s of apps be available until there is hardware.

 But for the second category there is more or less NO
 alternative. In other words PA is unique for them.

Agreed.
 
 So I suggest that you emphasize strongly the fully free nature of PA and
 that it enables the user to build customized systems using PA where they
 have total control over the result.

Who does that? Companies creating products, but that's it. As a result, we'd 
likely simply blunt nearly all interest in what we're doing with such a we're 
not an actual usable product, we're a set of lego bricks you get to assemble 
message.

That said, we definitely want to court companies working on these things as 
well. However, nearly every single company I've talked to so far that would 
like to do this or is even attempting to do so now needs not just the software 
solution but a hardware solution too. Without that we're a bit dead in the 
water with them.

So we're back to marketing from what our current strengths are ...

 This is also the market segment where we can build a strong community. And a
 nice side effect is that it will be people who have money and who can put
 full-time people into the development effort. Having the first mover
 advantage here means that for at least a period, PA can get ALL the paid
 development that will happen around tablet based free systems.

Yes, one there is a hardware platform they can use. This has repeatedly been 
the issue we've run into. If you know of companies that have their own 
hardware and are doing customized tablet software on it as well, please point 
them out and/or make introductions :)

That said, I think there is a distinction between PA as a software product and 
PA as a larger ecosystem driver. On its own as a software product, no matter 
how good it might be, it is of such limited interest that it really has next 
to no future. 

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Re: taglines on PA3 website.

2012-10-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer

On 05.10.2012 19:53, Carl Symons wrote:

I can put PA 3 reviewer guide together later.
Need:
Plasma Active logo (in svg if available)
PA3 announcement link (when available)
verification that press contacts are the same
updated information on hardware and testing Plasma Active in a virtual machine


I just went through the reviewer guide and found three wrong links in there:
- Both the announcement and press kit each link to the PA1 version (though the 
link text is correct)

- The link to the demo video on Youtube points to a video which has been removed

The presskit (other than containing the above errors in the reviewer guide) 
seems fine :)

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Re: release

2012-10-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer

On 06.10.2012 00:11, Carl Symons wrote:

Where is the microblogging app? Is there such a thing?


Since the microbblogging app is now mentioned on the live website: Could 
somebody please tell me which application is referred to here?
Let's just assume I'm an avid microblogger, I'm excited by the news that PA now 
has an application for me, have installed the PA3 Mer image and could not find 
an application called Microblogging or anything similar. Where can I find it?


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Re: release

2012-10-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday, October 14, 2012 23:37:40 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
 On 06.10.2012 00:11, Carl Symons wrote:
  Where is the microblogging app? Is there such a thing?
 
 Since the microbblogging app is now mentioned on the live website: Could
 somebody please tell me which application is referred to here?
 Let's just assume I'm an avid microblogger, I'm excited by the news that PA
 now has an application for me, have installed the PA3 Mer image and could
 not find an application called Microblogging or anything similar. Where can
 I find it?

it's a news reader, not a microblogging app... we really do need to hook up 
one of the several microblogging apps that are floating around, however :)

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Printed promo material?

2012-10-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer

Hi everyone,
I'm currently at the NordiCHI conference in Copenhagen, and when I talked to 
fellow HCI researchers here today about how awesome Plasma Active is and got 
them really interested, I wished I had something I could give them with the URL 
of our website on it and maybe a few more bits of information (though the URL 
might already be enough). There were PA flyers printed once, weren't there? Was 
their content timeless or would it need to be updated? If there are some left 
and they could still be used: Where can I get them?


Thanks,
Thomas
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Re: taglines on PA3 website.

2012-10-14 Thread Carl Symons
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer colo...@autistici.org wrote:
 On 05.10.2012 19:53, Carl Symons wrote:

 I can put PA 3 reviewer guide together later.
 Need:
 Plasma Active logo (in svg if available)
 PA3 announcement link (when available)
 verification that press contacts are the same
 updated information on hardware and testing Plasma Active in a virtual
 machine


 I just went through the reviewer guide and found three wrong links in there:
 - Both the announcement and press kit each link to the PA1 version (though
 the link text is correct)
 - The link to the demo video on Youtube points to a video which has been
 removed

 The presskit (other than containing the above errors in the reviewer guide)
 seems fine :)


This is the last video that Marco posted.

 and, hopefully the last one (this time higher res)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulcizzAj-N4
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Re: Printed promo material?

2012-10-14 Thread Carl Symons
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer colo...@autistici.org wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 I'm currently at the NordiCHI conference in Copenhagen, and when I talked to
 fellow HCI researchers here today about how awesome Plasma Active is and got
 them really interested, I wished I had something I could give them with the
 URL of our website on it and maybe a few more bits of information (though
 the URL might already be enough). There were PA flyers printed once, weren't
 there? Was their content timeless or would it need to be updated? If there
 are some left and they could still be used: Where can I get them?

 Thanks,
 Thomas

I'm not aware of any brochures. I've demonstrated PA at several
conferences on the ExoPC.

Good idea to have brochures. We've been using business card sized
literature lately, which works well. Would be easy to have 3Important
Things about PA and PA3 along with the logo and URL. How long will you
be there? Do you have access to a printing company? In Europe,
business cards are 55 mm x 85 mm?
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