Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-13 Thread Schaub, Steve
50 Ways to Weave Your Server

The problem is all in your db, she said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to weave your server

She said it's really not my habit to intrude
Furthermore, I hope my backups won't be lost or misconstrued
But I'll repeat myself at the risk of being sued
There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

You just run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Ooo run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

She said it grieves me when your systems down the drain
I wish your database would replicate again
I said I appreciate that and would you please explain
About the fifty ways

She said I see you're gonna get no sleep tonight
And I believe in the morning you'll really look a fright
And then she left me and I realized she probably was right
There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, WNI
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee
423-752-6574 (desk)
423-785-7347 (cell)
***public***
(with apologies to Mr. Simon, although I know several girls who hate his
original song) 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

I don't use the scripts.
For someone as experienced as you, I find them more trouble to modify
them than to do without them.  (E.G, the paths in the planfile won't be
right; the UPDATE VOL script is downright silly when you can do that
with 1 command now; will want to use RAW volumes at the recovery site
instead of JFS. etc.  

However, I do want the INFORMATION in the planfile to be available.  
So we just print it and send the print to the vault with the tapes.  

How about we start a list of 50 ways to retrieve your planfile?!?  

1) print it
2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
address so you can download it at your hot site
4) FTP it to your hotsite server
5)
...
...
(everybody should be humming along with Paul Simon at this point...)
hm




 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-13 Thread Remeta, Mark
Can I get the mp3 of this song, lol.


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:13 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Another D/R question


50 Ways to Weave Your Server

The problem is all in your db, she said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to weave your server

She said it's really not my habit to intrude
Furthermore, I hope my backups won't be lost or misconstrued
But I'll repeat myself at the risk of being sued
There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

You just run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Ooo run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

She said it grieves me when your systems down the drain
I wish your database would replicate again
I said I appreciate that and would you please explain
About the fifty ways

She said I see you're gonna get no sleep tonight
And I believe in the morning you'll really look a fright
And then she left me and I realized she probably was right
There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, WNI
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee
423-752-6574 (desk)
423-785-7347 (cell)
***public***
(with apologies to Mr. Simon, although I know several girls who hate his
original song)

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

I don't use the scripts.
For someone as experienced as you, I find them more trouble to modify
them than to do without them.  (E.G, the paths in the planfile won't be
right; the UPDATE VOL script is downright silly when you can do that
with 1 command now; will want to use RAW volumes at the recovery site
instead of JFS. etc.

However, I do want the INFORMATION in the planfile to be available.
So we just print it and send the print to the vault with the tapes.

How about we start a list of 50 ways to retrieve your planfile?!?

1) print it
2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
address so you can download it at your hot site
4) FTP it to your hotsite server
5)
...
...
(everybody should be humming along with Paul Simon at this point...)
hm






-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-13 Thread Bell, Charles (Chip)
So when is TSM karaoke night?   :)

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:13 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

50 Ways to Weave Your Server

The problem is all in your db, she said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to weave your server

She said it's really not my habit to intrude
Furthermore, I hope my backups won't be lost or misconstrued
But I'll repeat myself at the risk of being sued
There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

You just run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Ooo run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

She said it grieves me when your systems down the drain
I wish your database would replicate again
I said I appreciate that and would you please explain
About the fifty ways

She said I see you're gonna get no sleep tonight
And I believe in the morning you'll really look a fright
And then she left me and I realized she probably was right
There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, WNI
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee
423-752-6574 (desk)
423-785-7347 (cell)
***public***
(with apologies to Mr. Simon, although I know several girls who hate his
original song) 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

I don't use the scripts.
For someone as experienced as you, I find them more trouble to modify
them than to do without them.  (E.G, the paths in the planfile won't be
right; the UPDATE VOL script is downright silly when you can do that
with 1 command now; will want to use RAW volumes at the recovery site
instead of JFS. etc.  

However, I do want the INFORMATION in the planfile to be available.  
So we just print it and send the print to the vault with the tapes.  

How about we start a list of 50 ways to retrieve your planfile?!?  

1) print it
2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
address so you can download it at your hot site
4) FTP it to your hotsite server
5)


(everybody should be humming along with Paul Simon at this point...)
hm




 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-13 Thread Schaub, Steve
I'm there!
Should we start with Livin' on a Prayer or Once Bitten, Twice Shy?
-steve 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bell, Charles (Chip)
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:11 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

So when is TSM karaoke night?   :)

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:13 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

50 Ways to Weave Your Server

The problem is all in your db, she said to me The answer is easy if
you take it logically I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to weave your server

She said it's really not my habit to intrude Furthermore, I hope my
backups won't be lost or misconstrued But I'll repeat myself at the risk
of being sued There must be fifty ways to weave your server Fifty ways
to weave your server

You just run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Ooo run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

She said it grieves me when your systems down the drain I wish your
database would replicate again I said I appreciate that and would you
please explain About the fifty ways

She said I see you're gonna get no sleep tonight And I believe in the
morning you'll really look a fright And then she left me and I realized
she probably was right There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, WNI
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee
423-752-6574 (desk)
423-785-7347 (cell)
***public***
(with apologies to Mr. Simon, although I know several girls who hate his
original song) 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

I don't use the scripts.
For someone as experienced as you, I find them more trouble to modify
them than to do without them.  (E.G, the paths in the planfile won't be
right; the UPDATE VOL script is downright silly when you can do that
with 1 command now; will want to use RAW volumes at the recovery site
instead of JFS. etc.  

However, I do want the INFORMATION in the planfile to be available.  
So we just print it and send the print to the vault with the tapes.  

How about we start a list of 50 ways to retrieve your planfile?!?  

1) print it
2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
address so you can download it at your hot site
4) FTP it to your hotsite server
5)


(everybody should be humming along with Paul Simon at this point...)
hm




 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-13 Thread Ben Bullock
I'll show up with my best rendition of  

Data Nothing more than data... Trying to forget my DB
growth

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:36 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Another D/R question

I'm there!
Should we start with Livin' on a Prayer or Once Bitten, Twice Shy?
-steve 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bell, Charles (Chip)
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:11 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

So when is TSM karaoke night?   :)

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:13 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

50 Ways to Weave Your Server

The problem is all in your db, she said to me The answer is easy if
you take it logically I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to weave your server

She said it's really not my habit to intrude Furthermore, I hope my
backups won't be lost or misconstrued But I'll repeat myself at the risk
of being sued There must be fifty ways to weave your server Fifty ways
to weave your server

You just run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Ooo run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

She said it grieves me when your systems down the drain I wish your
database would replicate again I said I appreciate that and would you
please explain About the fifty ways

She said I see you're gonna get no sleep tonight And I believe in the
morning you'll really look a fright And then she left me and I realized
she probably was right There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, WNI
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee
423-752-6574 (desk)
423-785-7347 (cell)
***public***
(with apologies to Mr. Simon, although I know several girls who hate his
original song) 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

I don't use the scripts.
For someone as experienced as you, I find them more trouble to modify
them than to do without them.  (E.G, the paths in the planfile won't be
right; the UPDATE VOL script is downright silly when you can do that
with 1 command now; will want to use RAW volumes at the recovery site
instead of JFS. etc.  

However, I do want the INFORMATION in the planfile to be available.  
So we just print it and send the print to the vault with the tapes.  

How about we start a list of 50 ways to retrieve your planfile?!?  

1) print it
2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
address so you can download it at your hot site
4) FTP it to your hotsite server
5)


(everybody should be humming along with Paul Simon at this point...)
hm




 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-13 Thread Bell, Charles (Chip)
Heck yeah!

As long as no one busts out with Oops...I Did It Again or Hangin'
Tough, we'll be alright...  :)

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:36 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

I'm there!
Should we start with Livin' on a Prayer or Once Bitten, Twice Shy?
-steve 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bell, Charles (Chip)
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:11 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

So when is TSM karaoke night?   :)

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:13 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

50 Ways to Weave Your Server

The problem is all in your db, she said to me The answer is easy if
you take it logically I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to weave your server

She said it's really not my habit to intrude Furthermore, I hope my
backups won't be lost or misconstrued But I'll repeat myself at the risk
of being sued There must be fifty ways to weave your server Fifty ways
to weave your server

You just run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Ooo run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

She said it grieves me when your systems down the drain I wish your
database would replicate again I said I appreciate that and would you
please explain About the fifty ways

She said I see you're gonna get no sleep tonight And I believe in the
morning you'll really look a fright And then she left me and I realized
she probably was right There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, WNI
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee
423-752-6574 (desk)
423-785-7347 (cell)
***public***
(with apologies to Mr. Simon, although I know several girls who hate his
original song) 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

I don't use the scripts.
For someone as experienced as you, I find them more trouble to modify
them than to do without them.  (E.G, the paths in the planfile won't be
right; the UPDATE VOL script is downright silly when you can do that
with 1 command now; will want to use RAW volumes at the recovery site
instead of JFS. etc.  

However, I do want the INFORMATION in the planfile to be available.  
So we just print it and send the print to the vault with the tapes.  

How about we start a list of 50 ways to retrieve your planfile?!?  

1) print it
2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
address so you can download it at your hot site
4) FTP it to your hotsite server
5)


(everybody should be humming along with Paul Simon at this point...)
hm




 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-13 Thread Kauffman, Tom
I'm all for the Talking Heads and Road to Nowhere

Well we know where we're goin'
But we don't know where we've been
And we know what we're knowin'
But we can't say what we've seen

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ben Bullock
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:42 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Another D/R question

I'll show up with my best rendition of  

Data Nothing more than data... Trying to forget my DB
growth

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:36 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Another D/R question

I'm there!
Should we start with Livin' on a Prayer or Once Bitten, Twice Shy?
-steve 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bell, Charles (Chip)
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:11 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

So when is TSM karaoke night?   :)

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:13 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

50 Ways to Weave Your Server

The problem is all in your db, she said to me The answer is easy if
you take it logically I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to weave your server

She said it's really not my habit to intrude Furthermore, I hope my
backups won't be lost or misconstrued But I'll repeat myself at the risk
of being sued There must be fifty ways to weave your server Fifty ways
to weave your server

You just run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Ooo run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

She said it grieves me when your systems down the drain I wish your
database would replicate again I said I appreciate that and would you
please explain About the fifty ways

She said I see you're gonna get no sleep tonight And I believe in the
morning you'll really look a fright And then she left me and I realized
she probably was right There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, WNI
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee
423-752-6574 (desk)
423-785-7347 (cell)
***public***
(with apologies to Mr. Simon, although I know several girls who hate his
original song) 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

I don't use the scripts.
For someone as experienced as you, I find them more trouble to modify
them than to do without them.  (E.G, the paths in the planfile won't be
right; the UPDATE VOL script is downright silly when you can do that
with 1 command now; will want to use RAW volumes at the recovery site
instead of JFS. etc.  

However, I do want the INFORMATION in the planfile to be available.  
So we just print it and send the print to the vault with the tapes.  

How about we start a list of 50 ways to retrieve your planfile?!?  

1) print it
2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
address so you can download it at your hot site
4) FTP it to your hotsite server
5)


(everybody should be humming along with Paul Simon at this point...)
hm




 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily

Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-13 Thread Prather, Wanda
FABULOUS!!
Made my day!!!

Wanda Prather
I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O  -(me)
 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:13 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Another D/R question

50 Ways to Weave Your Server

The problem is all in your db, she said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to weave your server

She said it's really not my habit to intrude
Furthermore, I hope my backups won't be lost or misconstrued
But I'll repeat myself at the risk of being sued
There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

You just run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Ooo run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

She said it grieves me when your systems down the drain
I wish your database would replicate again
I said I appreciate that and would you please explain
About the fifty ways

She said I see you're gonna get no sleep tonight
And I believe in the morning you'll really look a fright
And then she left me and I realized she probably was right
There must be fifty ways to weave your server
Fifty ways to weave your server

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Run sysback, Jack
Email a new plan, Stan
You don't need a new toy, Roy
Just code it in C
Send the tapes on the bus, Gus
You don't need to offsite much
Just save the encrypt key, Lee
And send it FTP

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, WNI
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee
423-752-6574 (desk)
423-785-7347 (cell)
***public***
(with apologies to Mr. Simon, although I know several girls who hate his
original song) 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

I don't use the scripts.
For someone as experienced as you, I find them more trouble to modify
them than to do without them.  (E.G, the paths in the planfile won't be
right; the UPDATE VOL script is downright silly when you can do that
with 1 command now; will want to use RAW volumes at the recovery site
instead of JFS. etc.  

However, I do want the INFORMATION in the planfile to be available.  
So we just print it and send the print to the vault with the tapes.  

How about we start a list of 50 ways to retrieve your planfile?!?  

1) print it
2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
address so you can download it at your hot site
4) FTP it to your hotsite server
5)
...
...
(everybody should be humming along with Paul Simon at this point...)
hm




 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Another D/R question

2006-07-12 Thread Kauffman, Tom
We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-12 Thread Park, Rod
We do a daily sysback to tape which also goes offsite which has all of
the DRM info and volhist,devconfig,dsmserv.dskall pertinent files
needed for restore.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-12 Thread Prather, Wanda
I don't use the scripts.
For someone as experienced as you, I find them more trouble to modify
them than to do without them.  (E.G, the paths in the planfile won't be
right; the UPDATE VOL script is downright silly when you can do that
with 1 command now; will want to use RAW volumes at the recovery site
instead of JFS. etc.  

However, I do want the INFORMATION in the planfile to be available.  
So we just print it and send the print to the vault with the tapes.  

How about we start a list of 50 ways to retrieve your planfile?!?  

1) print it
2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
address so you can download it at your hot site
4) FTP it to your hotsite server
5) 
...
...
(everybody should be humming along with Paul Simon at this point...)
hm




 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Another D/R question

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-12 Thread Rick Saylor

Tom,

I email the DRM plans to my office and home email accounts. Just make
sure you send it somewhere that will be accessible during a disaster.
That is why I send a copy to my home email account. Also, a copy is
sent to systems administrators and other key personnel just in case I
happen to be part of the disaster.

Additionally, I have a backup TSM server at a remote location that
gets a copy of my data via virtual volumes. I use NFS to copy the DRM
plan along with the Volume_History, Device_Configuration and
dsmserv.opt files to my backup TSM server.

Rick Saylor
Austin Community College

At 01:47 PM 7/12/2006, you wrote:

We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-12 Thread Lawrence Clark
Although we have the DR license, because our primary storage pool and
copypools are in different locations we do not have to do any sort of
checkout / vaulting. However, we do backup the DB twice daily 4AM after
backups and 1PM after migrations and copypool creations. That tsm db
backup is done to a flat file and ftped to the TSM DR server, along with
the result of the PREPARE and these sets of TSM server config files:

-rw-r--r--   1 root sys1962 Jul 12 13:02
devconfig.info
-rw-r--r--   1 root sys 944 Jul 12 13:03 dsm.opt
-rw-r--r--   1 root sys 369 Jul 12 13:02 dsm.sys
-rw-r--r--   1 root sys 471 Jul 12 13:02 dsmserv.dsk
-rw-r--r--   1 root sys   17762 Jul 12 13:02 dsmserv.opt
-rw-r--r--   1 root sys1253 Jul 12 13:02 inclexcl.list
-rw-r--r--   1 root sys   44811 Jul 12 13:03
volhistory.info


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/12/06 3:17 PM 
Tom,

I email the DRM plans to my office and home email accounts. Just make
sure you send it somewhere that will be accessible during a disaster.
That is why I send a copy to my home email account. Also, a copy is
sent to systems administrators and other key personnel just in case I
happen to be part of the disaster.

Additionally, I have a backup TSM server at a remote location that
gets a copy of my data via virtual volumes. I use NFS to copy the DRM
plan along with the Volume_History, Device_Configuration and
dsmserv.opt files to my backup TSM server.

Rick Saylor
Austin Community College

At 01:47 PM 7/12/2006, you wrote:
We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive
when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part
of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the
TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same
boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4
hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-12 Thread Allen S. Rout
 On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:04:30 -0400, Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 said:

 1) print it
 2) mail it to a desktop that does have a floppy
 3) mail it to yourself (and other key players) on your home email
 address so you can download it at your hot site
 4) FTP it to your hotsite server
 5)

I rsync bits and pieces from each TSM server into one area I call the
staging area, and then rsync the staging area to three or four
locations around the country.

Uhh... ..And just get yourself... free...

- Allen S. Rout
- Couldn't keep the meter; I apologise.


Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-12 Thread Mark Stapleton
ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 07/12/2006
01:47:01 PM:
 So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
 associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
 tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
 -- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
 to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

For true DR capabilities, mail the prepare statements offsite to a
location that is accessible anywhere, like a gmail or yahoo mail account.
There's nothing proprietary in the prepare statement, so there are no
privacy or compliance issues.

(Don't send your prepare statements to a hotmail account, however. Reading
the hotmail EULA (from Microsoft, naturally) indicates that all data
stored in a hotmail account become the intellectual property of MS.

(:P

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US BankMR Backup and Recovery Management
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