Re: Full backup direct from client server
I know how to define a schedule against a node - how do I define another node client in the same TSM client? Regards Paul -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francisco Molero Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2006 9:55 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Full backup direct from client server Hi Paul, you can define another node client in your TSM client and define a copygroup with backup mode absolute. Then you need to define a scheduler against this node. So, you have a full backup. --- Paul Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Is it possible to schedule a full client server backup onto tape where the data comes direct from the client server? From my understanding of the gen backupset command it appears that it grabs the server data from existing backups already on tape. I would prefer to get the data direct from the client server as I have had a lot of problems with the gen backupset command. Thanks in advance Paul Paul Dudley ANL IT Operations Dept. ANL Container Line [EMAIL PROTECTED] ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person. __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person.
Re: Full backup direct from client server
Wouldn't a dsmc sel work? Dave Zarnoch Nationwide Provident [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allen S. Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent by: ADSM: cc: Dist StorSubject: Re: [ADSM-L] Full backup direct from client server Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 02/06/2006 09:49 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:31:17 +1100, Paul Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is it possible to schedule a full client server backup onto tape where the data comes direct from the client server? From my understanding of the gen backupset command it appears that it grabs the server data from existing backups already on tape. I would prefer to get the data direct from the client server as I have had a lot of problems with the gen backupset command. There've been several suggestions about defining new nodes. I would add an observation that you're not going to change much of the process by cutting a backupset off a new node. If your problems with gen backupset have to do with bad media on which current data is stored, then taking a new 'full' of the box will certainly help. But you might want to consider addressing the bad-data problem also / instead (copypools?). Similarly, if you feel there's some problem with the distribution of data amongst your primary volumes, a new backup could help, but again you might want to rethink things like collocation. But other than that, you will be placing yourself in an analogous logical position before you start the gen backupset; a good incremental, data in your TSM server, etc. The backupset is generated from current primary data on the TSM server, and not directly from the client box. So I'd expect you to encounter the same problem when you try to gen backupset from the new node. This could end up being immensely frustrating, especially if the node is large and taking the new copy is inconvenient. - Allen S. Rout
Re: Full backup direct from client server
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:31:17 +1100, Paul Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is it possible to schedule a full client server backup onto tape where the data comes direct from the client server? From my understanding of the gen backupset command it appears that it grabs the server data from existing backups already on tape. I would prefer to get the data direct from the client server as I have had a lot of problems with the gen backupset command. There've been several suggestions about defining new nodes. I would add an observation that you're not going to change much of the process by cutting a backupset off a new node. If your problems with gen backupset have to do with bad media on which current data is stored, then taking a new 'full' of the box will certainly help. But you might want to consider addressing the bad-data problem also / instead (copypools?). Similarly, if you feel there's some problem with the distribution of data amongst your primary volumes, a new backup could help, but again you might want to rethink things like collocation. But other than that, you will be placing yourself in an analogous logical position before you start the gen backupset; a good incremental, data in your TSM server, etc. The backupset is generated from current primary data on the TSM server, and not directly from the client box. So I'd expect you to encounter the same problem when you try to gen backupset from the new node. This could end up being immensely frustrating, especially if the node is large and taking the new copy is inconvenient. - Allen S. Rout
Full backup direct from client server
Is it possible to schedule a full client server backup onto tape where the data comes direct from the client server? From my understanding of the gen backupset command it appears that it grabs the server data from existing backups already on tape. I would prefer to get the data direct from the client server as I have had a lot of problems with the gen backupset command. Thanks in advance Paul Paul Dudley ANL IT Operations Dept. ANL Container Line [EMAIL PROTECTED] ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person.
Re: Full backup direct from client server
Hi Paul, you can define another node client in your TSM client and define a copygroup with backup mode absolute. Then you need to define a scheduler against this node. So, you have a full backup. --- Paul Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Is it possible to schedule a full client server backup onto tape where the data comes direct from the client server? From my understanding of the gen backupset command it appears that it grabs the server data from existing backups already on tape. I would prefer to get the data direct from the client server as I have had a lot of problems with the gen backupset command. Thanks in advance Paul Paul Dudley ANL IT Operations Dept. ANL Container Line [EMAIL PROTECTED] ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person. __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com
Re: Full backup direct from client server
If I understand you correctly you are suggesting creating an extra node client on the TSM server. We are already at the limit of client licenses so this is not possible at the moment. Regards Paul -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francisco Molero Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2006 9:55 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Full backup direct from client server Hi Paul, you can define another node client in your TSM client and define a copygroup with backup mode absolute. Then you need to define a scheduler against this node. So, you have a full backup. --- Paul Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Is it possible to schedule a full client server backup onto tape where the data comes direct from the client server? From my understanding of the gen backupset command it appears that it grabs the server data from existing backups already on tape. I would prefer to get the data direct from the client server as I have had a lot of problems with the gen backupset command. Thanks in advance Paul Paul Dudley ANL IT Operations Dept. ANL Container Line [EMAIL PROTECTED] ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person. __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person.
Re: Full backup direct from client server
Paul, The licencing is by cpu, so you can run as many nodes on the same machine as you want and still be within your licence terms. The client licences that you register on the server haven't caught up with the actual licencing scheme since it was changed a couple of years back. Just run a reg lic command to register as many licences as you need. Its an honour system. Regards Steve Steven Harris AIX and TSM Administrator Brisbane, Australia On 06/02/2006, at 11:22 AM, Paul Dudley wrote: If I understand you correctly you are suggesting creating an extra node client on the TSM server. We are already at the limit of client licenses so this is not possible at the moment. Regards Paul -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francisco Molero Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2006 9:55 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Full backup direct from client server Hi Paul, you can define another node client in your TSM client and define a copygroup with backup mode absolute. Then you need to define a scheduler against this node. So, you have a full backup. --- Paul Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Is it possible to schedule a full client server backup onto tape where the data comes direct from the client server? From my understanding of the gen backupset command it appears that it grabs the server data from existing backups already on tape. I would prefer to get the data direct from the client server as I have had a lot of problems with the gen backupset command. Thanks in advance Paul Paul Dudley ANL IT Operations Dept. ANL Container Line [EMAIL PROTECTED] ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person. __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person.
