Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
If you want to go China, I tried some from FCST.com.cn around $50ea + shipping was not cheap. Heat shrink works but not as nice ask FOSC. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:24 AM, wrote: > > Come to AnimalFarm and see the results > www.afmug.com > > From: Erich Kaiser > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:16 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases > > Let us know how they work, we may buy some as well depending on the outcome > of your testing :) > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > er...@northcentraltower.com > Office: 815-570-3101 > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:00 AM, wrote: >> I am going to buy a few and give them a try. I wonder how well they will do >> under water. >> They need to work on their online search. I am always having problems >> finding stuff I know they have. >> >> Anyone know what the super sticky gel rubber is made from? >> >> From: Steve Utick >> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:18 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases >> >> They are listed under WDM & Optical Access: >> >> https://www.fs.com/c/fiber-optic-splice-closure-17 >> >>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> I see trays but not enclosures. >>> >>> Link? >>> >>> From: Erich Kaiser >>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:54 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases >>> >>> They do have one for 144 count fiber on their website, looks to be about $44 >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> North Central Tower >>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>> Office: 815-570-3101 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? >>>> >>>> I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of >>>> everyone else. >>>> >>>> Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut >>>> corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and >>>> out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You >>>> will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop >>>> just for the splice case. >>>> Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer >>>> before electronics just to make the splice. >>> >>> >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
Come to AnimalFarm and see the results www.afmug.com From: Erich Kaiser Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases Let us know how they work, we may buy some as well depending on the outcome of your testing :) Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:00 AM, wrote: I am going to buy a few and give them a try. I wonder how well they will do under water. They need to work on their online search. I am always having problems finding stuff I know they have. Anyone know what the super sticky gel rubber is made from? From: Steve Utick Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases They are listed under WDM & Optical Access: https://www.fs.com/c/fiber-optic-splice-closure-17 On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I see trays but not enclosures. Link? From: Erich Kaiser Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases They do have one for 144 count fiber on their website, looks to be about $44 Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of everyone else. Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just for the splice case. Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer before electronics just to make the splice.
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
Let us know how they work, we may buy some as well depending on the outcome of your testing :) Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:00 AM, wrote: > I am going to buy a few and give them a try. I wonder how well they will > do under water. > They need to work on their online search. I am always having problems > finding stuff I know they have. > > Anyone know what the super sticky gel rubber is made from? > > *From:* Steve Utick > *Sent:* Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:18 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases > > They are listed under WDM & Optical Access: > > https://www.fs.com/c/fiber-optic-splice-closure-17 > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> I see trays but not enclosures. >> >> Link? >> >> *From:* Erich Kaiser >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:54 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases >> >> They do have one for 144 count fiber on their website, looks to be about >> $44 >> >> Erich Kaiser >> North Central Tower >> er...@northcentraltower.com >> Office: 815-570-3101 <(815)%20570-3101> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? >>> >>> I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of >>> everyone else. >>> >>> Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut >>> corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and >>> out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You >>> will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just >>> for the splice case. >>> Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per >>> customer before electronics just to make the splice. >>> >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
DTC6 is cheaper then the Optima-S We get them for ~$90 without pigtails. On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > For drop termination I'm really eyeballing the Multilink Optima-S, but I > haven't deployed any yet. With 4 ports it's around $135, so it does not > fit the lower price you're looking for. It has an upper and lower > compartment: splice trays in the lower compartment, female terminations in > the upper compartment. The idea is during construction you run a few > pigtails from the lower to upper compartmentone for each house you > might hook up. If you're doing PON you could stash a splitter in the lower > compartment as well. > > The installer then just does a field termination and plugs it in. My hope > would be that we save time from setting up and tearing down the splicer, > taking the enclosure off the pole, putting it back up, and retying the > slack. We're also not splicing in a bucket or having a cable puller guy > monkeying with splice trays with 144 other people's service just waiting to > be tangled up or bent or broken. I would like to pay less, but I'm > focusing on saving time and avoiding costly error. > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 3/11/2018 6:26:15 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] Splice Cases > > Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? > > I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of > everyone else. > > Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut > corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and > out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You > will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just > for the splice case. > Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer > before electronics just to make the splice. > > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
I don’t like connectors in splice cases. If you burn it you know it is good. But I don’t do Aerial. If I was doing Aerial I might consider it. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 8:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases For drop termination I'm really eyeballing the Multilink Optima-S, but I haven't deployed any yet. With 4 ports it's around $135, so it does not fit the lower price you're looking for. It has an upper and lower compartment: splice trays in the lower compartment, female terminations in the upper compartment. The idea is during construction you run a few pigtails from the lower to upper compartmentone for each house you might hook up. If you're doing PON you could stash a splitter in the lower compartment as well. The installer then just does a field termination and plugs it in. My hope would be that we save time from setting up and tearing down the splicer, taking the enclosure off the pole, putting it back up, and retying the slack. We're also not splicing in a bucket or having a cable puller guy monkeying with splice trays with 144 other people's service just waiting to be tangled up or bent or broken. I would like to pay less, but I'm focusing on saving time and avoiding costly error. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/11/2018 6:26:15 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Splice Cases Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of everyone else. Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just for the splice case. Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer before electronics just to make the splice.
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
For drop termination I'm really eyeballing the Multilink Optima-S, but I haven't deployed any yet. With 4 ports it's around $135, so it does not fit the lower price you're looking for. It has an upper and lower compartment: splice trays in the lower compartment, female terminations in the upper compartment. The idea is during construction you run a few pigtails from the lower to upper compartmentone for each house you might hook up. If you're doing PON you could stash a splitter in the lower compartment as well. The installer then just does a field termination and plugs it in. My hope would be that we save time from setting up and tearing down the splicer, taking the enclosure off the pole, putting it back up, and retying the slack. We're also not splicing in a bucket or having a cable puller guy monkeying with splice trays with 144 other people's service just waiting to be tangled up or bent or broken. I would like to pay less, but I'm focusing on saving time and avoiding costly error. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/11/2018 6:26:15 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Splice Cases Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of everyone else. Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just for the splice case. Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer before electronics just to make the splice.
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
I am going to buy a few and give them a try. I wonder how well they will do under water. They need to work on their online search. I am always having problems finding stuff I know they have. Anyone know what the super sticky gel rubber is made from? From: Steve Utick Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases They are listed under WDM & Optical Access: https://www.fs.com/c/fiber-optic-splice-closure-17 On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I see trays but not enclosures. Link? From: Erich Kaiser Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases They do have one for 144 count fiber on their website, looks to be about $44 Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of everyone else. Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just for the splice case. Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer before electronics just to make the splice.
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
I ordered a number of their smaller cases for testing and they just didn't feel right or seem well thought out. Could also just be that I don't know how to order the right parts to go inside them. Like ordering just a Coyote DTC6 case but not knowing how to order all the right inside parts and grommets to make it work. Ended up just working with the DTC6 in a layered feeder design where we feed a string of DTC6s with a 24 strand clearfield cable in 10/6 coming from a real splice case and then feed YourX terminals off of the DTC6 using strongfiber run through 10/6. Wouldn't work as well running down a road in a line but works really well when you need to service a few hundred distributed houses in a community off of one real splice case. On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > If your used to the FOSC case ‘gel seal’, we found it’s pretty trustworthy > and quick. Otherwise your using headshrink with every other brand which > takes some more time. I’ve not seen a gel seal design with any other brands > but I didn’t search very well. > > Another option to consider is going above ground for the splices. > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > On Mar 11, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? > > I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of > everyone else. > > Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut > corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and > out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You > will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just > for the splice case. > Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer > before electronics just to make the splice. > > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
If your used to the FOSC case ‘gel seal’, we found it’s pretty trustworthy and quick. Otherwise your using headshrink with every other brand which takes some more time. I’ve not seen a gel seal design with any other brands but I didn’t search very well. Another option to consider is going above ground for the splices. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 11, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? > > I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of everyone > else. > > Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut corners > on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and out of a > typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You will be > paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just for the > splice case. > Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer > before electronics just to make the splice.
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
They are listed under WDM & Optical Access: https://www.fs.com/c/fiber-optic-splice-closure-17 On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I see trays but not enclosures. > > Link? > > *From:* Erich Kaiser > *Sent:* Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:54 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases > > They do have one for 144 count fiber on their website, looks to be about > $44 > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > er...@northcentraltower.com > Office: 815-570-3101 <(815)%20570-3101> > > > > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? >> >> I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of >> everyone else. >> >> Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut >> corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and >> out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You >> will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just >> for the splice case. >> Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per >> customer before electronics just to make the splice. >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
Search for splice closure instead of splice case. Problem I think is these ship from China so either slow boat shipping and waiting 2 months or very expensive shipping. > I see trays but not enclosures. > > Link? > > From: Erich Kaiser > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:54 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases > > They do have one for 144 count fiber on their website, looks to be about > $44 > > Erich Kaiser > > North Central Tower > er...@northcentraltower.com > Office: 815-570-3101 > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? > > I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of > everyone else. > > Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut > corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in > and out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. > You will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per > drop just for the splice case. > Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per > customer before electronics just to make the splice. >
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
I use a fair amount of FS optics, cable assemblies, etc. I'm not sure I'd trust their OSP products though. On Sunday, March 11, 2018, Chuck McCown wrote: > Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? > > I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of > everyone else. > > Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut > corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and > out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You > will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just > for the splice case. > Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer > before electronics just to make the splice. >
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
I see trays but not enclosures. Link? From: Erich Kaiser Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases They do have one for 144 count fiber on their website, looks to be about $44 Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of everyone else. Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just for the splice case. Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer before electronics just to make the splice.
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
They do have one for 144 count fiber on their website, looks to be about $44 Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? > > I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of > everyone else. > > Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut > corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and > out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You > will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just > for the splice case. > Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer > before electronics just to make the splice. >
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Cases
I’ve been wondering the same thing. I need one that will service only two homes, and it just so expensive per sub. I want something around the $50 price point that has access for two subs but has room for at least 72 strand. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Mar 11, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? > > I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of everyone > else. > > Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut corners > on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and out of a > typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You will be > paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just for the > splice case. > Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer > before electronics just to make the splice.
[AFMUG] Splice Cases
Is there any FS type lower cost splice cases out in the world yet? I say FS type because everything Fiber Store does is 20% the cost of everyone else. Hoping for something lower cost. Not really an area you want to cut corners on, but they sure are expensive. Say you feed 144 strands in and out of a typical splice case that has a port that will take 6 drops. You will be paying $120-$240 for something like that. $20 to $40 per drop just for the splice case. Add in an equal amount for the hand hole, you could be in $80 per customer before electronics just to make the splice.