Re: BUS: [Proposal & Pend Intent] Saving Sponsorship
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:16 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following proposal. For N from 2 to 5, I intend with N support > to cause the following proposal to become pending. With 2 support, I do so. -Aris
BUS: Re: OFF: [Diplonomic 2020] Enacting three proposals
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:59 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-official wrote:
>
> In the past day, a few proposals have passsed:
>
> "Order Clarification" by ATMunn (4 FOR — 0 AGAINST)
> {
> Amend Diplonomic Rule 17 to read in full:
>
> 17. There are four possible orders: Hold, Move, Support, and Convoy. Not
> giving a unit an order is interpreted as ordering it to hold.
>
> A Hold order orders a unit to stay where it is.
>
> A Move order orders a unit to move to a different province. Armies can
> only move onto adjacent inland or coastal provinces. Fleets can only
> move to adjacent water or coastal provinces. A Move order making use of
> a Convoy must specify what Convoy paths it will use or conditionals to
> determine such.
>
> Support orders help another unit's action, whether or not it is a unit
> of the same Great Power. An Army or Fleet can provide support to another
> Army or Fleet. Support can be offensive or defensive. A unit cannot
> support an order to or on a province which the supporting unit could not
> move to itself.
>
> A Convoy order orders a fleet in a water province to move an army from
> an adjacent coastal province to another adjacent coastal province.
> Multiple fleets may be used to convoy the same army, allowing an army to
> be convoyed over multiple water provinces. If any fleet involved in a
> convoy is dislodged, the convoy fails.
> }
>
> "Voting Fixes" by Aris (4 FOR — 1 AGAINST)
> {
> Amend Diplonomic Rule 8 to read in full:
>
> 8. At any time, any Contestant CAN submit a Proposal to change these
> rules by announcement. Any Contestant CAN withdraw any Proposal e has
> submitted by announcement. When a Proposal has been submitted but not
> withdrawn, any Contestant CAN privately send a vote to the Judge, or
> withdraw eir previous vote. When a Proposal has received a number of
> non-withdrawn votes in favor greater than half the number of Contestants,
> the Judge SHALL, in a timely fashion, and CAN enact the proposal by
> publishing the new text of the rules and the number of votes in favor
> and against. The Judge SHALL NOT reveal the votes of specific
> Contestants.
> }
>
> "Team Play" by Aris (3 FOR — 1 AGAINST)
CoE: 3 votes isn't a majority.
-Aris
BUS: [Diplonomic Proposal] Further Order Clarification
I submit the following as a Diplonomic Proposal:
{
If the previous Diplonomic Proposal submitted by ATMunn has not passed,
then amend Diplonomic Rule 17 by replacing the last sentence with the
following paragraph:
{
A Convoy order orders a fleet in a water province to move an army from
one coastal province to another. All fleets that have convoy orders
listing the same source and destination provinces are "participating" in
that convoy, with the exception that if a fleet is dislodged, it is not
participating. A convoy is successful if the army in question makes a
move order consistent with that convoy, and the fleets participating in
the convoy form an unbroken chain connecting the two coastal provinces.
(Extra participating fleets / multiple chains are okay.) When a convoy
is successful, that army's move order, and any support orders for that
move, are interpreted as if the source and destination provinces were
adjacent: for example, if the destination province holds one unsupported
unit with a Hold order, and another army is supporting the move into the
destination, then the move succeeds and dislodges that unsupported unit.
}
If the previous Diplonomic Proposal submitted by ATMunn has passed, then
amend Diplonomic Rule 17 by replacing the last paragraph with the
paragraph above.
}
--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood russian notary here :)
BUS: [Proposal] Contract Charities version 3 or something
I submit the following proposal, paying a Pendant to cause it to become
sponsored:
Title: Contract charities
Co-authors: G., Falsifian, P.S.S.
AI: 1
Text:
{
[Comment: The original version was by G., then resubmitted by Falsifian,
then again by me. :) P.S.S. also suggested a minor change, so I included
em as a coauthor as well.]
Enact the following rule, Charities:
Donation Level is a natural switch for contracts, tracked by the
Notary, with a default of 0 and a maximum of 25. A contract with
nonzero donation level is called a Charity.
The Notary CAN flip a contract's donation level to a non-default
value with 3 Agoran consent. This SHOULD only be done if the
contract's provisions ensure that its funds received from Agora
will be used solely for the betterment of Agora. Any player CAN
flip a contract's donation level to 0 with Agoran consent.
Whenever a payday occurs, half of each charity's coin holdings
(rounded down) are destroyed, and then each charity earns a
number of coins equal to its donation level.
}
--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood russian notary here :)
Re: BUS: [Proposal & Pend Intent] Saving Sponsorship
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 7:35 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 7/10/20 1:15 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > These proposals were pended using pendants. However, because the rules > > at the time did not render them sponsored, they did not become so. It is, > > in my opinion, an error that they were not rendered sponsored > retroactively; > > as Promotor, I feel an obligation to mop things up, and this proposal > would > > do so. I've checked the way the reward rules are phrased, and it looks > like > > this should work. > > > > I submit the following proposal. For N from 2 to 5, I intend with N > support > > to cause the following proposal to become pending. > > > > --- > > Title: Saving Sponsorship > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > Author: Aris > > Co-authors: > > > > > > Each of the following proposals is hereby rendered sponsored: > > - "Plain Old Bribery", by Jason > > - "Agora the karma bank", by G. > > > I support. > > -- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate > Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth > I, too, support -- >From R. Lee
Re: BUS: [Proposal & Pend Intent] Saving Sponsorship
On 7/10/20 1:15 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > These proposals were pended using pendants. However, because the rules > at the time did not render them sponsored, they did not become so. It is, > in my opinion, an error that they were not rendered sponsored retroactively; > as Promotor, I feel an obligation to mop things up, and this proposal would > do so. I've checked the way the reward rules are phrased, and it looks like > this should work. > > I submit the following proposal. For N from 2 to 5, I intend with N support > to cause the following proposal to become pending. > > --- > Title: Saving Sponsorship > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: Aris > Co-authors: > > > Each of the following proposals is hereby rendered sponsored: > - "Plain Old Bribery", by Jason > - "Agora the karma bank", by G. > I support. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Re: [Diplonomic] Regulation BT7 Declaration
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 3:34 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > Just so everyone knows, Trigon (who is not a contestant) and I will be > playing as a team in the Diplonomic game. E will be assisting me generally in > negotiations, with drafting orders, with looking over my proposals, and just > about everything else related to the tournament. Since e will be advising me > in negotiations, I request that all mail addressed to me related to the > tournament be sent to both of us. > > I'm going to propose to allow teammates to share a win, since this seems like > the simplest and fairest way to allow non-contestants to participate. The > tournament filled up very quickly, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are > other non-contestants who are interested in being involved. > > Don't worry too much about me and Trigon. We're both new Diplomacy players > who are still figuring things out, and we'll just be bouncing ideas off each > other. We're likely nowhere near as much of a threat as some of the players > who have played diplomacy before. > I hereby declare that I may also receive some advice about orders from my friends Ben and Claire. They've asked for a summary of what's going on in Diplomacy, and I don't want to be in trouble if it somehow slips into advice. -Aris
