Re: DIS: Re: BUS: None of my votes have counted since July 15
Yes. People not votes for quorum On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > After reading Rules 2422 and 683, I think your vote still counts toward > quorum, which is good. > > -Aris > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 4:11 PM Rebecca wrote: > > > I imposed summary judgement on myself on Jul 15, bringing me to 3 blots, > > moving my voting strength to 0. This is a CoE on the resolution of all > > Agoran Decisions which had a voting period ending after that date: change > > them accordingly (as far as I know, my zombie's votes count) > > > > -- > > From V.J. Rada > > > -- >From V.J. Rada
DIS: Re: BUS: None of my votes have counted since July 15
After reading Rules 2422 and 683, I think your vote still counts toward quorum, which is good. -Aris On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 4:11 PM Rebecca wrote: > I imposed summary judgement on myself on Jul 15, bringing me to 3 blots, > moving my voting strength to 0. This is a CoE on the resolution of all > Agoran Decisions which had a voting period ending after that date: change > them accordingly (as far as I know, my zombie's votes count) > > -- > From V.J. Rada >
Re: (Attn: Murphy) in Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Summary Judgement
ATMunn's been sitting on it for a long time. On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I called the CFJ on June 24 and argued that summary judgement DIDN'T > prevent > a payday: > > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/ > agora-business/2018-June/038657.html > > but I don't see it listed in the next Gazette so maybe it was missed? > (this > was also during the peak of the email troubles). > > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I thought I remembered CFJing on this question in the last few months, > but > > don't remember seeing the result (and couldn't find it in a quick Gazette > > search). Anyone remember? Boy I really really really need to get the > CFJ > > database up-to-date again. > > > > > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote: > > > I was sloppy with these, too. Summary Judgement fines are not > > > forgivable by definition. Therefore I am not eligible for a Ref salary > > > this month. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Rebecca > wrote: > > > > There is one person recently late on reports (myself) and three > people > > > > very late on CFJs. One of them is Gaelan, a zombie, but the other two > > > > are PSS and ATMunn, who have no excuse. Those CFJs were assigned on > 24 > > > > June, and therefore became late on the 2nd of July. As today is just > > > > within the 14-day deadline for that time, I impose Summary Judgement > > > > on them. (By the way, Murphy emself has a SHALL obligation that e has > > > > missed to reassign these but I regard that as less important. > > > > > > > > I impose summary judgement on > > > > -Myself for not lodging a Referee Weekly Report last week > > > > -PSS for failing to judge the CFJ numbered 3645 > > > > -ATMunn for failing to judge CFJ 3648 > > > > > > > > The penalties I levy are as follows > > > > -I levy a 1-blot fine on myself, varying down from the Class-2 > default > > > > because the conduct was unintentional and there was no new > information > > > > to report. I designate this fine as forgivable and I designate the > > > > apology word "is". > > > > -I levy a 1-blot fine on PSS. I find that failing to judge a CFJ, > > > > which does not have a Class attached, is generally deserving of the > > > > lowest possible fine. I designate this fine as forgivable with the > > > > apology word "I". > > > > -I levy a 1-blot forgivable fine with the word "did" on ATMunn for > the > > > > same reasons as above. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > From V.J. Rada > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > From V.J. Rada > > > > > > > > > -- >From V.J. Rada
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Summary Judgement
the result never got judged (poke ATMunn). but to me the result is clear: the provision for making fines forgivable is _only_ contained within the Cold Hand of Justice Rule. On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I thought I remembered CFJing on this question in the last few months, but > don't remember seeing the result (and couldn't find it in a quick Gazette > search). Anyone remember? Boy I really really really need to get the CFJ > database up-to-date again. > > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote: > > I was sloppy with these, too. Summary Judgement fines are not > > forgivable by definition. Therefore I am not eligible for a Ref salary > > this month. > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Rebecca > wrote: > > > There is one person recently late on reports (myself) and three people > > > very late on CFJs. One of them is Gaelan, a zombie, but the other two > > > are PSS and ATMunn, who have no excuse. Those CFJs were assigned on 24 > > > June, and therefore became late on the 2nd of July. As today is just > > > within the 14-day deadline for that time, I impose Summary Judgement > > > on them. (By the way, Murphy emself has a SHALL obligation that e has > > > missed to reassign these but I regard that as less important. > > > > > > I impose summary judgement on > > > -Myself for not lodging a Referee Weekly Report last week > > > -PSS for failing to judge the CFJ numbered 3645 > > > -ATMunn for failing to judge CFJ 3648 > > > > > > The penalties I levy are as follows > > > -I levy a 1-blot fine on myself, varying down from the Class-2 default > > > because the conduct was unintentional and there was no new information > > > to report. I designate this fine as forgivable and I designate the > > > apology word "is". > > > -I levy a 1-blot fine on PSS. I find that failing to judge a CFJ, > > > which does not have a Class attached, is generally deserving of the > > > lowest possible fine. I designate this fine as forgivable with the > > > apology word "I". > > > -I levy a 1-blot forgivable fine with the word "did" on ATMunn for the > > > same reasons as above. > > > > > > -- > > > From V.J. Rada > > > > > > > > -- > > From V.J. Rada > > > > -- >From V.J. Rada
(Attn: Murphy) in Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Summary Judgement
I called the CFJ on June 24 and argued that summary judgement DIDN'T prevent a payday: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2018-June/038657.html but I don't see it listed in the next Gazette so maybe it was missed? (this was also during the peak of the email troubles). On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I thought I remembered CFJing on this question in the last few months, but > don't remember seeing the result (and couldn't find it in a quick Gazette > search). Anyone remember? Boy I really really really need to get the CFJ > database up-to-date again. > > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote: > > I was sloppy with these, too. Summary Judgement fines are not > > forgivable by definition. Therefore I am not eligible for a Ref salary > > this month. > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > > There is one person recently late on reports (myself) and three people > > > very late on CFJs. One of them is Gaelan, a zombie, but the other two > > > are PSS and ATMunn, who have no excuse. Those CFJs were assigned on 24 > > > June, and therefore became late on the 2nd of July. As today is just > > > within the 14-day deadline for that time, I impose Summary Judgement > > > on them. (By the way, Murphy emself has a SHALL obligation that e has > > > missed to reassign these but I regard that as less important. > > > > > > I impose summary judgement on > > > -Myself for not lodging a Referee Weekly Report last week > > > -PSS for failing to judge the CFJ numbered 3645 > > > -ATMunn for failing to judge CFJ 3648 > > > > > > The penalties I levy are as follows > > > -I levy a 1-blot fine on myself, varying down from the Class-2 default > > > because the conduct was unintentional and there was no new information > > > to report. I designate this fine as forgivable and I designate the > > > apology word "is". > > > -I levy a 1-blot fine on PSS. I find that failing to judge a CFJ, > > > which does not have a Class attached, is generally deserving of the > > > lowest possible fine. I designate this fine as forgivable with the > > > apology word "I". > > > -I levy a 1-blot forgivable fine with the word "did" on ATMunn for the > > > same reasons as above. > > > > > > -- > > > From V.J. Rada > > > > > > > > -- > > From V.J. Rada > > > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Summary Judgement
I thought I remembered CFJing on this question in the last few months, but don't remember seeing the result (and couldn't find it in a quick Gazette search). Anyone remember? Boy I really really really need to get the CFJ database up-to-date again. On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote: > I was sloppy with these, too. Summary Judgement fines are not > forgivable by definition. Therefore I am not eligible for a Ref salary > this month. > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > There is one person recently late on reports (myself) and three people > > very late on CFJs. One of them is Gaelan, a zombie, but the other two > > are PSS and ATMunn, who have no excuse. Those CFJs were assigned on 24 > > June, and therefore became late on the 2nd of July. As today is just > > within the 14-day deadline for that time, I impose Summary Judgement > > on them. (By the way, Murphy emself has a SHALL obligation that e has > > missed to reassign these but I regard that as less important. > > > > I impose summary judgement on > > -Myself for not lodging a Referee Weekly Report last week > > -PSS for failing to judge the CFJ numbered 3645 > > -ATMunn for failing to judge CFJ 3648 > > > > The penalties I levy are as follows > > -I levy a 1-blot fine on myself, varying down from the Class-2 default > > because the conduct was unintentional and there was no new information > > to report. I designate this fine as forgivable and I designate the > > apology word "is". > > -I levy a 1-blot fine on PSS. I find that failing to judge a CFJ, > > which does not have a Class attached, is generally deserving of the > > lowest possible fine. I designate this fine as forgivable with the > > apology word "I". > > -I levy a 1-blot forgivable fine with the word "did" on ATMunn for the > > same reasons as above. > > > > -- > > From V.J. Rada > > > > -- > From V.J. Rada >
DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Summary Judgement
I was sloppy with these, too. Summary Judgement fines are not forgivable by definition. Therefore I am not eligible for a Ref salary this month. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Rebecca wrote: > There is one person recently late on reports (myself) and three people > very late on CFJs. One of them is Gaelan, a zombie, but the other two > are PSS and ATMunn, who have no excuse. Those CFJs were assigned on 24 > June, and therefore became late on the 2nd of July. As today is just > within the 14-day deadline for that time, I impose Summary Judgement > on them. (By the way, Murphy emself has a SHALL obligation that e has > missed to reassign these but I regard that as less important. > > I impose summary judgement on > -Myself for not lodging a Referee Weekly Report last week > -PSS for failing to judge the CFJ numbered 3645 > -ATMunn for failing to judge CFJ 3648 > > The penalties I levy are as follows > -I levy a 1-blot fine on myself, varying down from the Class-2 default > because the conduct was unintentional and there was no new information > to report. I designate this fine as forgivable and I designate the > apology word "is". > -I levy a 1-blot fine on PSS. I find that failing to judge a CFJ, > which does not have a Class attached, is generally deserving of the > lowest possible fine. I designate this fine as forgivable with the > apology word "I". > -I levy a 1-blot forgivable fine with the word "did" on ATMunn for the > same reasons as above. > > -- > From V.J. Rada -- >From V.J. Rada
DIS: Re: BUS: missing reports
I was sloppy in these messages: I didn't explicitly state that these were forgivable. But I think the imposition of an apology word automatically makes it so. On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Rebecca wrote: > I find both of these finger points valid. Because these are two > separate finger points, I will impose two separate penalties. > Therefore, twice over I > Impose the Cold Hand of Justice on Corona for missing Registrar weekly > reports for the previous two weeks. > Impose a fine of 1 blot with the apology word "Jeff" > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> [Affects at least 1 zombie auction] >> >> I point the finger at Corona for missing the Registrar's report for the week >> ending on July 15. >> >> I point the finger at Corona for missing the Registrar's report for the week >> ending on July 22. >> >> >> > > > > -- > From V.J. Rada -- >From V.J. Rada
DIS: Re: BUS: upkeep
Proposal 8072 changes processing facilities' upkeep costs from 3 coins to 3 steel. We really need a Rulekeepor, don't we. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 26, 2018 9:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I pay the following upkeep costs for the indicated facilities: > > > E (+3, -2) Rank 2 Mine, owned by G. > > 2n-2 lumber = 2 lumber. > > > F (+4, -1) Rank 3 Mine, owned by G. > > 2n-2 lumber = 4 lumber. > > > G (+4, 0) Rank 3 Orchard, owned by G. > > 2n-2 stones = 4 stones. > > > H (+3, 0) Rank 3 Mine, owned by G. > > 2n-2 lumber = 4 lumber. > > > I (+2, 0) Rank 3 Orchard, owned by G. > > 2n-2 stones = 4 stones. > > > Q (+3, -1) Rank 5 Refinery, owned by G. > > 3 Coins (not Rank 5 anymore) as per Proposal 8067.
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder
Yes, that's true. Seeing your objection, I only looked at the 24 hours
from that and forgot about the base deadline. Sorry.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:12 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
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>
>
> By my count you're still a few hours short? (just don't want any further
> ambiguity at all).
>
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > I hereby ratify the following document, having received no objection,
> > as intended:
> > {
> > The quorum on each of the decisions to adopt Proposals 8066-8076 is 5.
> > }
> >
> > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:48 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok sure i withdraw this objection.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > > > I object. I would not object to the highest quorum value.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder
By my count you're still a few hours short? (just don't want any further
ambiguity at all).
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> I hereby ratify the following document, having received no objection,
> as intended:
> {
> The quorum on each of the decisions to adopt Proposals 8066-8076 is 5.
> }
>
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:48 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok sure i withdraw this objection.
> >
> > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > > I object. I would not object to the highest quorum value.
> >
> >
>
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder
NttPF, not that it actually makes any difference to anything now anyway.
-twg
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On July 26, 2018 9:06 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
wrote:
> I hereby ratify the following document, having received no objection,
> as intended:
> {
> The quorum on each of the decisions to adopt Proposals 8066-8076 is 5.
> }
>
> --
>
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:48 AM Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
>
> > Ok sure i withdraw this objection.
> > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> > > I object. I would not object to the highest quorum value.
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder
I hereby ratify the following document, having received no objection,
as intended:
{
The quorum on each of the decisions to adopt Proposals 8066-8076 is 5.
}
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:48 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
>
> Ok sure i withdraw this objection.
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > I object. I would not object to the highest quorum value.
>
>
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land auctions -- July week 4
Currency revaluations are a standard solution to runaway inflation. :) -Aris On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:52 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > tone came across wrong - read that with a smiley, not genuinely annoyed :) > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Since the current Prime Minister seems to favor pure legislative theft, > > I see no reason to play "nice" here: > > > > I bid 75 coins in every one of the below auctions. > > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > > > There are currently more public, unpreserved, non-aether land units in > > > existence than I feel like counting. 5 land units of my choice are put > up for > > > auction. > > > > > > For the following 5 auctions, I am the announcer, Agora is the > auctioneer, and > > > the minimum bid is 1 coin, and the lots are as such: > > > > > > AUCTION 1: the land unit at (+4, +1) > > > AUCTION 2: the land unit at (-6, +3) > > > AUCTION 3: the land unit at (-6, -3) > > > AUCTION 4: the land unit at (+6, +3) > > > AUCTION 5: the land unit at (+6, -3) > > > > > > -- > > > Trigon > > > > > > > >
DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8077-8081
Just FYI, Aris and Assessor twg, I misread the list because I think you have authorship wrong for 8080? (I misread 8081 as being v3 by Aris). On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Aaand ... misread the list. I change my vote on 8081 to FOR. > > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I vote FOR 8077. > > I vote AGAINST 8078, 8079, 8080, and 8081. > > > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > > > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > > > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > > > quorum is 14.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid > > > options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are > > > conditional votes). > > > > > > ID Author(s) AITitle > > > --- > > > 8077* twg 3.0 Patchy McPatchface > > > 8078+ twg 2.0 From each according to eir means > > > 8079+ twg 2.0 From each according to eir means v2 > > > 8080+ twg 2.0 From each according to eir means v3 > > > 8081+ Aris, G., twg 3.0 Point Installation Act v2 > > >
DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land auctions -- July week 4
tone came across wrong - read that with a smiley, not genuinely annoyed :) On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Since the current Prime Minister seems to favor pure legislative theft, > I see no reason to play "nice" here: > > I bid 75 coins in every one of the below auctions. > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > > There are currently more public, unpreserved, non-aether land units in > > existence than I feel like counting. 5 land units of my choice are put up > > for > > auction. > > > > For the following 5 auctions, I am the announcer, Agora is the auctioneer, > > and > > the minimum bid is 1 coin, and the lots are as such: > > > > AUCTION 1: the land unit at (+4, +1) > > AUCTION 2: the land unit at (-6, +3) > > AUCTION 3: the land unit at (-6, -3) > > AUCTION 4: the land unit at (+6, +3) > > AUCTION 5: the land unit at (+6, -3) > > > > -- > > Trigon > > >
