Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Taral wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. Uh, no. This is *not* B Nomic. I didn't think it would work, but I figured it was worth a shot. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr
DIS: RE: BUS: bank merger
OscarMeyr wroet: If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. I don't think such timed actions work in Agora. B used to have them, and they caused all sorts of problems there, but that precise a timing wouldn't have worked in B even when the rule existed, and it has since been repealed there. -- ais523 winmail.dat
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 24 Jan 2009, at 01:54, Geoffrey Spear wrote: AFO: ^109 ais523: ^102 Bayes: ^23 BobTHJ: ^343 comex: ^7 ehird: ^0 Murphy: ^29 OscarMeyr: ^7 Pavitra: ^206 PNP: ^15 Protection Racket: ^40 Quazie: ^103 Taral: ^339 Warrigal: ^0 woggle: ^13 Wooble: ^368 CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 24 Jan 2009, at 14:30, Elliott Hird wrote: CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed. So did it all fail or just those...?
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed. So did it all fail or just those...? Those coins are still held by the RBoA.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:35 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I withdraw as many VP as possible. I believe this is 6, for ^15, leaving you with ^3 The AFO withdraws as many VP as possible. As ehird pointed out, the AFO is not a Comrade so it can't receive coins, so this is 0.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
terminate it now? On 24/01/2009, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I post the following Bank Motion: {{ Set the Exchange Rate for every currency to 0. Deposit all assets held by the Bank except Coins in the People's Bank of Agora. Distribute all coins held by the Bank to the holders of Chits, proportionally to their Chit holdings. }} I RBoA-deposit 16 2 crops. I resolve the above motion. votes were: Approved: ehird (3 chits) Wooble (2410 chits) total: 2413 chits Disapproved: Taral (2223 chits) OscarMeyr (48 chits) total: 2271 chits The motion carries. The RBoA deposits in the PBA: 16 2 crops (+ ^792) 8 8 crops (+ ^60) 25 9 crops (+ ^66) 12 X crops (+ ^594) 56 vote points (+ ^15) leaving the RBoA with 1704 coins There are 11167 Chits outstanding, which means that each holds of chits should receive 1 coin for each ~6.55 chits e holds. This works out as: AFO: ^109 ais523: ^102 Bayes: ^23 BobTHJ: ^343 comex: ^7 ehird: ^0 Murphy: ^29 OscarMeyr: ^7 Pavitra: ^206 PNP: ^15 Protection Racket: ^40 Quazie: ^103 Taral: ^339 Warrigal: ^0 woggle: ^13 Wooble: ^368
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I become a party to the RBoA. (I may have already been a party. The Notary website says I am but it also says BobTHJ is.) Hmm... since when has Bankership not been restricted to aristocrats?
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:02 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm... since when has Bankership not been restricted to aristocrats? Since Bank Motions were instituted. -- Taral tar...@gmail.com Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Taral tar...@gmail.com wrote: I disapprove this Motion. Find a better disposition of the assets than an inflationary bank system. Well, yeah, the proposal to fix the PBA should really come before this part of my evil 2-part plan. This part has the benefit of being the easy part.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: And the RBoA doesn't meet this definition why? We can pass a hack motion to fix the rates? You can do that in the PBA too. Then do so. -- Taral tar...@gmail.com Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 22 Jan 2009, at 21:30, Taral wrote: Then do so. Except it's better to tweak the algorithm, which woggle already protoed in ##nomic. It's a matter of figuring out what will guard against it best.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. I'm fairly certain such conditional scheduled actions don't work in Agora.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: I publish the following conditional action: If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. I publish the following conditional action: If the above action worked, I create 100,000 coins in my possession.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 23/01/2009, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I become a party to the RBoA. (I may have already been a party. The Notary website says I am but it also says BobTHJ is.) I post the following Bank Motion: {{ Set the Exchange Rate for every currency to 0. Deposit all assets held by the Bank except Coins in the People's Bank of Agora. Distribute all coins held by the Bank to the holders of Chits, proportionally to their Chit holdings. }} I approve this Motion I intend, without 3 Objections, to terminate the RBoA agreement. I pledge to not do so unless the above Motion is carried out. I disapprove this Motion, if doing so carries any weight. I object to terminating the RBoA agreement. I publish the following conditional action: If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr No recordkeepor/court worth eir salt would treat this as effective.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. Uh, no. This is *not* B Nomic. -- Taral tar...@gmail.com Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown